 elwoodblues Elwood Blues
join:2006-08-30 Toronto, ON | reply to RandomZero Re: [ Express] Workarounds for Rogers' web hijacking
Fast is an understatement. I make a DNS change for work, and within minutes those Namservers are already updated.
This allows me to RDP home to test my changes |
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 RandomZero
join:2008-01-07
2 edits | reply to NETPRO yep, confirmed that dns doesn't do anything for this 
Also, that 64.* ip address apparently does nothing.
I've added it and the dns to my hosts file as well as peer guardian and I'm still recieving the alerts.
Upon further testing (adding double spaces in my hosts file and browsing around different websites for the past 15 or so minutes), I've discovered I've yet to recieve another popup... Perhaps this does work? And you don't even have to refresh anything, it just doesn't display anything.. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com | reply to NETPRO Nah, billing cycle is on the 10th of the month and i started noticing this change immediately after upgrading. Still no popup btw. after quite a few hours. |
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  Netpro
@rogers.com | reply to RobbersHater Maybe you just simply went into a new billing cycle. go to rogers.com and check your current usage. As long as it's below 75% for the current billing cycle, you won't see anything. Otherwise, the ip blocking is the most effective way. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com
| reply to NETPRO Something weird happening here but maybe good. Could be a coincidence but...
I've updated my XP OS to sp3 and so far, no injection popup. I still use FF and have Adblock running but Adblock shows the dreaded Roger-Dodgers ip in the "blocked list" in red txt. The red txt is not even appearing in the list. I'm going through my bookmarks and refreshing pages that usually would be affected by now but nothing.
I'll post results later as well as maybe it's a fluke.
Or...maybe some weird coincidence has occurred that within sp3, there has been a security issue addressed that is similar to the tech rogers is using to inject this mess. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com | reply to NETPRO One thing i have noticed about this popup is that it has NEVER popped up in my case when refreshing dslreports.com or the "Startup/Homepage" for Firefox with Google search engine.
....interesting.. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com | reply to NETPRO Agreed StuckWithRogers. I already have the ip blocked(FF with Adblock)and I am constantly hitting Refresh. I would just like to get around that popup altogether. |
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  StuckWithRogers
@rogers.com
| reply to RobbersHater I don't believe redirecting your DNS lookup will do anything. Rogers is performing a man-in-the-middle attack. Regardless of whose server you did the DNS lookup at, rogers will still hi-jack any unencrypted HTTP traffic, and inject their code mid-transit. The best solution is blocking all traffic to/from 64.71.251.10 and hitting refresh everytime you get a blank page.
Acknowledging those messages to me, would be like agreeing with their ridiculous cap (which I don't) so I would NEVER acknowledge that message even to make it go away. Too bad rogers has a monopoly in my neighborhood, else I'd have switched to teksavvy in a heartbeat. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com
| reply to NETPRO K, guys thanx for the replies. So, i went into my Linksys router and it says to sign up @ DynDNS.org. Did that. Saved settings but i still get the pop up. Forgive me noobness .
Anything I'm missing? |
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 RandomZero
join:2008-01-07
| reply to Rogers user said by Rogers user :
To change your DNS in Windows, go to Control Panel, double click Network Connections, right click on Local Area Connection, select Properties, then Internet Protocol TCP/IP , select properties, change the DNS servers. yep.
If you're using a router then it might be easier to set the DNS in the router so any pc you connect will use it. |
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  Rogers user
@rogers.com | reply to RobbersHater To change your DNS in Windows, go to Control Panel, double click Network Connections, right click on Local Area Connection, select Properties, then Internet Protocol TCP/IP , select properties, change the DNS servers. |
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  RobbersHater
@rogers.com
| reply to RandomZero said by RandomZero : The best and easiest way is to use 4.2.2.1/2/3/4 as your DNS servers.
They're fast, never go down, and I'm pretty sure they're corporate.
OK  Can someone please give a quick rundown what this means and how i can implement it. As of right now, I'm using FF with "Adblock". I don't see the popup but i still have to hit "Refresh" often. Does this "DNS redirect" avoid the popup altogether?
TIA |
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  mordin 42 inches of 1080p Premium join:2005-05-28 Moncton, NB
| reply to gurn said by gurn :
you can opt out of seeing the notifications Only for the current billing cycle. Once you start the next billing cycle the messages will come back until you opt out again. So you'll have to 'opt out' once a month. -- Intel P4 2.8 800 fsb, Asus P4P800 w/1GB PC3200 DDR RAM, 512 MB GeForce 7600GT, SB Audigy Gamer, DVD-Rom/CD-R Burner & LG Duel layer DVD Burner, 320 & 120 GB Internal & 2x 250 & 2x 500 GB External hard drives & Samsung 226BW 22" LCD Monitor |
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  Pegasys66
join:2008-01-16
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Nemo888 said by Nemo888 : Now that Teksavvy and third parties are being throttled this is the best deal in Canada. You are really funny... Now that Bell has imposed throttling on independant ISPs, Rogers' own offerings look better in comparison. Do you also torture puppies? -- "I do not agree with what Sympatico is doing, but I will fight to the death for their right to do it to their own users." And leave us alone!!! |
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  fighter
@rogers.com | reply to gurn how? |
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  gurn
@rogers.com | reply to Fighter you can opt out of seeing the notifications |
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  mordin 42 inches of 1080p Premium join:2005-05-28 Moncton, NB
| reply to Nemo888 said by Nemo888 :Compared to throttling which was pure hell this is awesome. Now that Teksavvy and third parties are being throttled this is the best deal in Canada. But Rogers still has throttling - even with caps, overage charges & warning banners. If your Rogers area is suffering throttling it's a 24/7 thing. Bell is throttling it's customers & 3rd party resellers during prime time only - roughly between 5 - 12pm. -- Intel P4 2.8 800 fsb, Asus P4P800 w/1GB PC3200 DDR RAM, 512 MB GeForce 7600GT, SB Audigy Gamer, DVD-Rom/CD-R Burner & LG Duel layer DVD Burner, 320 & 120 GB Internal & 2x 250 & 2x 500 GB External hard drives & Samsung 226BW 22" LCD Monitor |
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 Nemo888
join:2005-12-25 Canada
1 edit | reply to NETPRO What is the big deal? I like the 75%/100% messages(hit 75% yesterday, hit acknoledge, done. No more messages till 100%) If you want just check "Do Not Send These Messages" instead of acknoledge and you never get one again. What a whiny over reaction.
I think 95GB a month is fair for the price and I don't want to go over. Compared to throttling which was pure hell this is awesome. Now that Teksavvy and third parties are being throttled this is the best deal in Canada. |
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  Fighter
@rogers.com
| reply to NETPRO There is another good workaround on this problem:
everybody sends email and calls their helpdesk everyday until they give up. Otherwise, we will jam their mailbox and lines. After all, we are customers who are asking reasonable questions. It's our rights.  |
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  twizlar I dont think so. Premium join:2003-12-24 Brantford, ON
| reply to RandomZero OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc. OrgID: LVLT Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd. City: Broomfield StateProv: CO PostalCode: 80021 Country: US
NetRange: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255 CIDR: 4.0.0.0/8 NetName: LVLT-ORG-4-8 NetHandle: NET-4-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.LEVEL3.NET NameServer: NS2.LEVEL3.NET Comment: RegDate: Updated: 2004-06-04 -- Broadline Networks Inc. |
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