jeisenberg
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join:2001-07-06
Windsor, ON
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 ·Cogeco Cable
|  [Windsor] HD channels moved to 700 range
I have nearly 70 series programmed into my PVR. The vast majority of those are set to record HD channels. Now that Cogeco has announced the move of HD channels to the 700 band, can anyone tell me how much time there is until the HD channels on the 200 band are no longer broadcast.
I need to know if this is imminent, or if I can take a leisurely approach to reprogramming the series.
Also, will the move to the 700 band be accompanied by a "final solution" to the two-year old problem of series recordings not working properly due to problems with the guide?
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ItalCanadese
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join:2007-07-25
Stoney Creek, ON | I believe there's a few weeks before we actually remove the HDs from the 200s, I'll double-check to give an exact timeframe though. |
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Yllzarith
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join:2002-05-27
Burlington, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to jeisenberg
It looks like our intention is to keep the channels duplicated in the 200s until at least May 9th, but the exact date of removal of the HD channels from the 200s is still TBD, afaik. I'd bank on earlier rather than later, though, just to be safe.
Also, this change has nothing to do with the PVR series recording issue (I'm sorry to say). The purpose of these adjustments is to free up network bandwidth we can use to roll out new service offerings (like HD channels, DOCSIS 3.0, or whatever).
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| said by Yllzarith  :Also, this change has nothing to do with the PVR series recording issue (I'm sorry to say). The purpose of these adjustments is to free up network bandwidth we can use to roll out new service offerings (like HD channels, DOCSIS 3.0, or whatever). ... wha? Digital channels numbers are just a software assignment, and have nothing to do with bandwidth. On a Clear QAM tuner the channels would show up as xxx-xx, where the xxx is the actual RF channel number (these are usually 100+) and -xx is the QAM sub-channel. The numbers that show up on a DCT are just done through the firmware, nothing more. The same amount of bandwidth will be used with them in the 700s as they are now in the 200s, and so far the actual QAM channel locations haven't changed. I think it's a good idea to keep the HD channels separated in the 700 range, but don't try and tell us it's being done as a result of "exciting new technologies!" on the horizon. That's most certainly not the case. 
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Yllzarith
Tech Support minion
join:2002-05-27
Burlington, ON
·Cogeco Cable
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April 20th, @02:11PM
| Well, I'm not saying the adjustment is creating new bandwidth - you're correct that that's not the case. What this will do is improve the efficiency of how we're using the existing bandwidth, allowing us to re-assign some to other services.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| said by Yllzarith :Well, I'm not saying the adjustment is creating new bandwidth - you're correct that that's not the case. What this will do is improve the efficiency of how we're using the existing bandwidth, allowing us to re-assign some to other services. Again, I saw hogwash to that, because unless Cogeco is going to be super-compressing the HD channels like Rogers and Comcast are to squeeze in more QAM bandwidth, moving the HD content to the 700 "channels" has absolutely no impact on the plant what so ever. It's a software change, nothing more.
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Yllzarith
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join:2002-05-27
Burlington, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| We are moving the channel frequencies to open up space at a frequency where we want/need to have more.
As an example: say we have a little space open at the top end of our available frequencies on our all-digital upgraded nodes, but we really need that space near the middle. We shift the existing channels to the space in the top end (without compressing them anymore than we are now) so the bandwidth in the middle is available to be used for other services, instead.
This being said, I'm not a network engineer, so my explaination may be corrected by someone who's directly involved with the changes being made after all  . I just want to provide some explaination of why we're changing things based on what I have heard from those more in the know than I am.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
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| That's fine, but again, you could have easily moved the QAM frequency while still maintaining the HD channels where they are now.  That's why unless someone working with the plant comes here and says otherwise, I see this as cosmetic and nothing more.
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Marcer
join:2007-07-08
Hamilton, ON
·Mountain Cable
| said by Snickerdo :That's fine, but again, you could have easily moved the QAM frequency while still maintaining the HD channels where they are now. That's why unless someone working with the plant comes here and says otherwise, I see this as cosmetic and nothing more. And you are absolutely correct
The Digital receiver uses a configuration file to map Channel number to frequency. This change is a change only to the configuration file. This allows streamlined access to HD content, i.e. all "700" series channels will be HD |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| said by Marcer :The Digital receiver uses a configuration file to map Channel number to frequency. This change is a change only to the configuration file. This allows streamlined access to HD content, i.e. all "700" series channels will be HD Yup, that's exactly what I thought when I was at my grandfather's and saw the message show up on his DCT. I actually think it's a good idea to move all HD content to a single unified block, but I'm smart enough to not buy any of that "new wonderful technologies!" junk
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nitzguy
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join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
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| reply to Snickerdo
said by Snickerdo :That's fine, but again, you could have easily moved the QAM frequency while still maintaining the HD channels where they are now. That's why unless someone working with the plant comes here and says otherwise, I see this as cosmetic and nothing more. Awww c'mon, don't give them such a hard time .
They're probably just realigning...it was well overdue IMHO .
This will Allow them to offer more services in the future...otherwise why do it? ...but I agree, no bandwidth would be gained by realigning channels numbers . |
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Snickerdo
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St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| said by nitzguy :This will Allow them to offer more services in the future...otherwise why do it? Like Marcer said - organizational reasons, nothing more. That way all the HD channels are in the 700s and not spread across the 200s and encroaching in on the 300s. BEV has all their HD channels in the 800s and 800s alone. Cogeco already does this with some stuff - 300s are music, 400 are premium sports packages, 500 are speciality and premium French channels, 900s are analog remaps in areas that have full digital coverage, etc. Makes sense to put HD into the 700s.
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Yllzarith
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join:2002-05-27
Burlington, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| Well, I'm glad Marcer put in his explanation to clear things up for all concerned.
Clearly I was confusing this channel re-alignment with other preparatory work I've seen bulletins for recently (I thought frequency adjustments were being done as well as channel # adjustments).
Sorry for the mix-up, everyone!
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