Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? in Cogeco

Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? in Cogeco http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20360462 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:42:24 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:42:24 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20522416 anon : Ok sounds good. I will go ahead with Cogeco. Ill think about newsgroup after I see how torrents perform. I really only download movies and music albums .. and rarely software. So in that case, as you said, newsgroup might work out for me. I just dread the monthly fees I have to pay for newsgroup. Gotta figure out my budget.

Thanks for all your advice!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20522416 Thu, 22 May 2008 09:39:25 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20520483 boredguy : If Nexicom DSL is going through Bell you're almost certainly gonna get your torrents throttled. It's at certain times of day, something from like 5pm-3am or so with both uploading and downloading throttled. So if you won't be torrenting then or are fine with getting your torrents the day after it won't make a big difference to you.

Cogeco only seems to throttle in certain areas as there are plenty of people who don't get throttled and plenty of people who do. So you may or may not be throttled. If you are throttled it'll be at all times but only on uploads. That means on public torrents it'll affect download speeds. On private site torrents you'll still get good download speeds but keeping up with ratios will be a problem.

Encrypting torrents does nothing against throttling.

Usenet is pretty easy to use, and if your downloading is mostly tv shows/movies/top 40 music/normal porn, you'll be able to find pretty much everything you can with torrents. If you like more obscure music or more fetishy type porn you can find that easier with torrents.
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As for your choice... I suppose it depends on how much you're downloading. If you download a lot, keep in mind you're capped at 60GB on the standard account... so throttling might actually help keep your rates down. I say try it and see for yourself... if you don't like it, switch over to the other company. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20519139 Wed, 21 May 2008 17:41:56 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518591 anon : um, i assume you are giving me a thumbs up for cogeco? lol
just encrypt torrents in utorrent ... correct?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518591 Wed, 21 May 2008 16:17:55 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518256 Chainzz : I personally have no issues with torrents...thats me though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518256 Wed, 21 May 2008 15:17:37 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518139 anon : hey guys,
im getting cogeco 10mb/s on fri(may 23). should i cancel the appointment and get nexicom dsl 5mb/s? i heard dsl is better in terms of dl torrents..is that true? i got in touch with a nexicom rep thru a forum, he looked at my area and told me that their dsl line would be serviced through bell. so ... is that a bad thing altogether?

#1 so again i ask, cogeco OR nexicom?

#2 or should I keep cogeco and get giganews(its a newsgroup? w/ unltd dl for $30/mon .. so i can share with another friend)

im new to all this, i dont quite know/understand newsgroups.
any suggestion would be helpful. i'd just hate to get cogeco then find out they throttle..already being paid $35 admin fees and then switch to another isp.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20518139 Wed, 21 May 2008 14:56:39 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470265 anon : Cogeco throttles every type of P2P. Using a VPN is currently the only way around it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470265 Mon, 12 May 2008 14:39:36 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466820 hdtvguy :

said by urbanriot

said by Trythis :

If you can upload fine over http, such as on the BBR speedtest, at the same time as BT upload is poor, you've eliminated network issues.

Well, no, not exactly. Uploading to BBR speedtest is considerably less complicated than advertising to the swarm, communicating with hundreds of peers, making requests, hash checks, blah blah blah.

I agree, donwloading from my 12 connections to my newsgroup provider (only after midnight to avoid node congestion issues) I get speeds that blow the BBR out of the water.

However the BT route, to get consistently good upload speeds requires me using a VPN. I've had no problems after signing up for VPN. I'm curious, because I remember your previous posts, that you now seem to have an issue with BT. Have you tried WireShark. Its results swung me over to VPN and I haven't regretted it since.
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Long and short: I personally like the cogeco people that frequent this forum and help people out - including in their own time - I would not like to see them lose their jobs trying to answer your questions... you'll probably have to accept hearing it all from "spokespeople" for the time being.
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said by Trythis :

But you can download ok, right? That would do all the above, yes?

Good point! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370692 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:52:15 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370452 anon : I do love the way the Cogeco spokeswoman put that. Very carefully :)

It is worth mentioning that you don't have to fake RST flagged packets. If you just drop flows silently you will eventually get a genuine RST from the other side as it times out ;)

All that statement says is that they don't use the kit which generates the false RSTs, which as far as I know means Sandvine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370452 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:07:19 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370410 anon :

said by urbanriot

:

Well, no, not exactly. Uploading to BBR speedtest is considerably less complicated than advertising to the swarm, communicating with hundreds of peers, making requests, hash checks, blah blah blah.

But you can download ok, right? That would do all the above, yes?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370410 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:59:21 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370009 Asawulf : Guess the statement is already made and is the same as it was before :

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···uze.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370009 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:50:22 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369978 anon : Without an official statement or even a statement from a Cogeco employee on the forum then the thread loses meaning.

Then the other two sides are left to battle it out. Each side nullifies the others.

If a third party just happened to start reading the thread they would come to the conclusion that throttling 'does not exist'.

The silence from one party and the nullification from the others create an atmosphere of disinformation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369978 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:44:36 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369848 urbanriot : You keep using 'FUD', but I'm not sure you understand the concept, and might be using it incorrectly.

If I understand you, you believe Cogeco is throttling torrents? If so, FUD is the opposite of what's being discussed.

If you don't believe that Cogeco is throttling torrents, and you're against the OP, then I can see how you'd consider this disinformation. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369848 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:17:07 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369782 anon : Round and round here we go!

How to make the perfect FUD cake.

Ingredients:

1 Kg Facts
20 grams Shill
10 grams Fanboy
5 grams Forum

Then mix is all together.

Oh it is such a simple and yet tasty cake.

Cogeco sure knows what it is doing by not speaking out on the issue. There are some employees of Cogeco who are very vocal on DSLR and when it comes to the throttling issue you could here a pin drop. Their silence is very revealing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369782 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:03:50 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369239 urbanriot :

said by Trythis :

If you can upload fine over http, such as on the BBR speedtest, at the same time as BT upload is poor, you've eliminated network issues.

Well, no, not exactly. Uploading to BBR speedtest is considerably less complicated than advertising to the swarm, communicating with hundreds of peers, making requests, hash checks, blah blah blah. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369239 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:20:25 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369115 anon :

said by urbanriot

:

If they're sending out RST packets, or using other forms of packet disruption, you wouldn't even know and would consider whatever speeds you've been experiencing as being "normal".

Or maybe Quebec isn't being affected yet?

I fought tooth and nail for a year that Cogeco wasn't disrupting torrents, but I'm completely unable to upload... so either I have a connection problem, or I'm also being affected.

This is also inline with their disconnecting users, raising rates and rising profits. If it's true, it doesn't surprise me. Cogeco's becoming closer and closer to Comcast every day... How's their HD video signal?

If you can upload fine over http, such as on the BBR speedtest, at the same time as BT upload is poor, you've eliminated network issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369115 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:05 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369011 dad_of_3 :

said by Asawulf

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As said before by many other Cogeco users, I have no problem getting max download and upload speeds...

All the time...

No slow downs...

So stop being so definitive about what you say :p

no problems here either :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369011 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:34:08 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368775 urbanriot : If they're sending out RST packets, or using other forms of packet disruption, you wouldn't even know and would consider whatever speeds you've been experiencing as being "normal".

Or maybe Quebec isn't being affected yet?

I fought tooth and nail for a year that Cogeco wasn't disrupting torrents, but I'm completely unable to upload... so either I have a connection problem, or I'm also being affected.

This is also inline with their disconnecting users, raising rates and rising profits. If it's true, it doesn't surprise me. Cogeco's becoming closer and closer to Comcast every day... How's their HD video signal? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368775 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:53:26 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368735 Asawulf : As said before by many other Cogeco users, I have no problem getting max download and upload speeds...

All the time...

No slow downs...

So stop being so definitive about what you say :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368735 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:47:08 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368705 theninjasqua : They may not throttle the downloading per say, but they kill any attempts at uploading with torrents.
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Cogeco Reset% 19.13%
»torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-thro···-080421/
Now stop saying you don't ,Cogeco. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366333 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:17:16 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362015 beatsnpieces : If Cogeco throttles it is intermittent. I have gone for extended periods in the past with terrible torrent performance, but in the last 8 months I have had great speeds up and down. Usually 250kbp/s or more down and consistently 120kbp/s up (which is about as fast as a 1mbit/s up connection can go). As usual torrents from private trackers are always much faster, usually 400kbp/s to 1.3mb/s down and a steady 120kbp/s up.
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read my thread here :
»upgraded to Total Internet Performance and got put on 60GB

Maybe after the 10 months of discounted rate runs out I will come back and ask again
Thanks Again
Shwing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360898 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:25:00 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360462 lilbum : I've only noticed the throttling on upload, and only it seems at certain times. I haven't watched it closely enough to see the "pattern".But on private torrents which will max out whatever upload speed I set it to ,sometimes don't go over 6-7 KBs other times it will max out. I did watch my speed graph the other day and my upload was 60KBs for hours, then about 7 30 am or so it dropped instantly to 10KBs and stayed there all day. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360462 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:46:22 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20357769 Phorkster :

said by ilnexistepas :

I am still waiting for the day that Cogeco comes clean on this issue. What is some FUD among friends and a forum. FUD is a powerful tool.

I have a better chance of getting pregnant. (Yes I am a man, atleast the last time I checked.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20357769 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:38:30 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355498 anon : I am still waiting for the day that Cogeco comes clean on this issue. What is some FUD among friends and a forum. FUD is a powerful tool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355498 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:17:57 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355291 andyb : When a company does not come out and say they dont,thats as good as saying yes we do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355291 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:20:54 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355116 urbanriot : I've staunchly defended Cogeco's handling of torrents in the past, but lately I've had great difficulty seeding to a few global users I've been testing with, who are definitely unaffected by any sort of packet filtering or throttling techniques. Uploads seemed quenched or disrupted with most users... I haven't looked further into it though.

I've assumed that since the Cogeco employees that would know de facto if they were or were not throttling haven't said anything in about a year or so, that they might be employing some methods of disruption.

I have no problems downloading though, torrents, newsgroups or otherwise. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355116 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:40:41 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354815 Adam20 : I have personally NEVER experienced any throttling with Cogeco.. but then again I dont use BT...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354815 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:23:14 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354261 anon : :( Yea sadly Cogeco now throttles on the upstream and prevents seeding but the Azureus wiki said they did even before they started so it doesnt have the credibility on this forum... but yea, Cogeco throttles seeding hard. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354261 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:45:44 EDT Re: [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354206 andyb : Not sure how often this gets updated.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354206 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:30:53 EDT [Windsor] Does Cogeco Throttle? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354161 shwing : I used to be with Cogeco, I switched to Sympatico because it was unlimited...those days are gone, I need to know if Cogeco uses traffic management to throttle P2p/Torrents ect
that will be the deciding factor for me to revert back to Cogeco
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