Monster TIM Review in Overclocking/Modding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20362718 en Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:01:02 EDT Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:01:02 EDT Re: Monster TIM Review http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20383652 signmeuptoo : Snake oil? Not in my opinion!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20383652 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:26:01 EDT Re: Monster TIM Review http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380912 gallowsroad :
said by hardflip See Profile :

TIM is about as important to overclocking and performance as the color of the pcb is. The difference between them is negligible and not worth the hassle of some "elite compound". It is just snakeoil.
Just buy a quality heatsink and use the tim that came with it. Why would they include it if it was going to raise the temp?
It isn't that what they use as a default material will cause temps to rise, but that some materials may provide a small margin of slightly cooler temps, by being more efficient in transferring heat. That slim margin of a few degrees can be the difference between a higher stable over clock and a lower one. For those who are squeezing every ounce of performance from their rigs, that small margin can be a significant difference.

An Australian guy on the web (don't have link) years ago did a shoot out of TIM, and found that many initially cool equally to one another. This included such esoteric substances as Vegemite and toothpaste. It's a very funny article, and you can tell he is poking fun at serious over clockers, but he also makes the point at the end that many of the materials used, while initially cooling just fine, will break down in undesirable ways in a very short time, thus reducing or completely disrupting their ability to transfer heat. That can be one of the differences between dedicated TIM products and whatever comes with a heat sink.

The more sophisticated materials will last longer, keeping their properties intact. For someone trying to get that last few MHz of speed, it can be of use.

Doesn't mean stock coolers with stock materials are a bad thing - they usually are not. But once you begin to push hardware beyond stock, small things can make large differences.
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Just buy a quality heatsink and use the tim that came with it. Why would they include it if it was going to raise the temp?
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I didn't wait at all, didn't have to. It is supposed to be applied very very thin and can be applied more thin, by far, than AS5, for instance. Time and patience.
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I've been using it for more than a year now with good results.
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said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

ROTFLOL! True, so true, but it IS just about as good as you can get, has a lifetime shelf life, a long service life, and goes on as thin as can be!
Don't forget it eats through aluminum :/
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said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

Oh man, they didn't even test Coollaboratories Liquid Pro Liquid Metal??? What how could they skip that one???
See the Epilogue at the end... They've added a bunch more for their next shootout... And Liquid Pro is on the list. ;)
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said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

Oh man, they didn't even test Coollaboratories Liquid Pro Liquid Metal??? What how could they skip that one???
Probably cause they could test 4 other TIMS with the time spent cleaning up after the Liquid Pro.. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368941 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:22:18 EDT Re: Monster TIM Review http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366913 decx : The ThermalRight stuff is pretty good. In that shootout it's the top non metallic based material.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366913 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:56:35 EDT Re: Monster TIM Review http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366389 signmeuptoo : Oh man, they didn't even test Coollaboratories Liquid Pro Liquid Metal??? What how could they skip that one???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366389 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:31:43 EDT Monster TIM Review http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362718 jsimmons : Hot off the press....

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