Re: DSL is Latency Solution in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20362832 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:58:58 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:58:58 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20367633 Tzale :
said by KrK See Profile :

said by mike69 :

BS, Cable is always faster than DSL, I have never seen a DSL latency ever lower than the competing cable company.
That's BS. Another person who doesn't understand line speed vs latency.

Latency to servers is effected by many things, namely number of hops, distance to said server. That being said I have seen some DSL lines with very low latency and very responsive gaming despite being a lot "Slower" then the cable company's tiers.
Exactly. No connection is better than another at the consumer level IMHO.. It all depends on the peer connection and network maintenance the ISP does.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20367633 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:23:50 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366999 Nightfall :
said by Packeteers See Profile :

my comments are based on comparisons I do with other game players and their connections. there will of course be many exceptions to every rule, yet the majority of best lag game opponents seem more often to be on DSL than Cable. of course, FIOS is a whole different story altogether.
You are right that there will be many exceptions. If there are exceptions, then why make that BS comparison? The simple fact of the matter is broadband performance differs from one area to another. DSL is not better than cable or vice versa. It all depends on the provider and the area you are in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366999 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:45:59 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366770 KrK :
said by mike69 :

BS, Cable is always faster than DSL, I have never seen a DSL latency ever lower than the competing cable company.
That's BS. Another person who doesn't understand line speed vs latency.

Latency to servers is effected by many things, namely number of hops, distance to said server. That being said I have seen some DSL lines with very low latency and very responsive gaming despite being a lot "Slower" then the cable company's tiers.
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said by Smith6612 See Profile :

My latency is always lower than Roadrunner's latency here. I wouldn't say that, as service can very by area.
Truth is that it depends on ISP and individual service area... Both can be better.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366636 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:20:11 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365855 markopoleo :
said by Packeteers See Profile :

anyone serious about gaming, already uses a DSL based ISP instead of CableTV based ISP. that's the best solution to cutting down lag to your game servers. some people will always be screwed by their rural/suburban geography as their packets get routed from CO to CO till they finally make it to a major on ramp router. others should call and complain to their ISP to get rerouted as the routing table in your CO's switch can get neglected unless enough people complain. that may not solve Latency, but it should minimize Lag potential by reducing the number of hops your connection is subjected.
Stop spreading that urban legend. Cable offers just as low latency as DSL can. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365855 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:30:50 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364248 jester121 :
said by Packeteers See Profile :

there will of course be many exceptions to every rule,
There are so many exceptions that your statement doesn't come close to qualifying as a rule -- I'd classify it as rote conjecture resulting from a superiority complex.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364248 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:20:39 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364143 Smith6612 : My latency is always lower than Roadrunner's latency here. I wouldn't say that, as service can very by area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364143 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:56:56 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364023 anon : BS, Cable is always faster than DSL, I have never seen a DSL latency ever lower than the competing cable company.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364023 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:45:55 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364080 odog : Hello my name is FUD

Don't hate me because I have a cable modem and sub 10ms first hop latency.

Don't hate me because I have direct links to L3 and AT&T and sub 50ms latency to anything this side of the rockies.

Don't hate me because you don't know what you're talking about and pawn off your limited haxor experience as the word of the internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364080 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:45:37 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364039 wriley : Are you kidding me??? Do a side by side test of any DSL and the competing Cable and the cable will always be faster, with less latency. My ping times have been less then my competing DSL consistantly over the past 12 years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364039 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:40:17 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363520 Packeteers : my comments are based on comparisons I do with other game players and their connections. there will of course be many exceptions to every rule, yet the majority of best lag game opponents seem more often to be on DSL than Cable. of course, FIOS is a whole different story altogether.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363520 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:03:13 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363058 Tzale :
said by ender7074 See Profile :

Yah thats just a big pile of bs. I had a cable connection and my pings were 50-80ms better on cable that I have ever got on DSL. The DSL connection has problems staying connected and is SLOW. I'm going back to cable as soon as they lay the lines in my new subdivision.
Same here... Latency on DSL was horrible compared to my cable connection. Now with FIOS, it is excellent!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363058 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:30:27 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362983 supergirl : My pings on AT&T DSL were around 100-150ms and Cox HSI is only 50-60ms max. I was 12-15,000 ft. from the CO. The Tech told me they needed a remote DSLAM. The Cox terminal is right outside. Cox upgraded a lot after Hurricane Ivan and for Digital Phone.

DSL is only great if a 10/1 connection and less than 3,000 ft. to the CO/DSLAM. My DSL at less than 3,000 ft. to the CO in another city was about 7.5/900 instead of 6/768.

And, if the wiring sucks, it doesn't matter anyway. I found if I got a lousy Dial-up connection DSL wasn't going to be anything special.

I would say @Home was pretty good in 2000-2001.
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-Supergirl]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362983 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:15:28 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362907 ender7074 : Yah thats just a big pile of bs. I had a cable connection and my pings were 50-80ms better on cable that I have ever got on DSL. The DSL connection has problems staying connected and is SLOW. I'm going back to cable as soon as they lay the lines in my new subdivision.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362907 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:59:35 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362885 battleop : Did you just make that up? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362885 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:52:40 EDT Re: DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362832 brianiscool : My friend has DSL and his ping is much higher on servers than my cable connection. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362832 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:49 EDT DSL is Latency Solution http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362798 Packeteers : anyone serious about gaming, already uses a DSL based ISP instead of CableTV based ISP. that's the best solution to cutting down lag to your game servers. some people will always be screwed by their rural/suburban geography as their packets get routed from CO to CO till they finally make it to a major on ramp router. others should call and complain to their ISP to get rerouted as the routing table in your CO's switch can get neglected unless enough people complain. that may not solve Latency, but it should minimize Lag potential by reducing the number of hops your connection is subjected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362798 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:35:13 EDT