CableTool
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join:2004-11-12 | reply to BeoCmcstCntr
Re: Bye bye Comcast
I guess you did. |
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BeoCmcstCntr
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said by CableTool  :The entire Chicago Region has 16/2. No Verizon in site. sorry offtopic.
we have 16/2 in Chicago market? I guess i missed something. |
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grcore
New and Improved
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said by scooby :I'm unfortunately stuck with Comcast until I can get my HOA to agree to let me put up a dish for D*. You may want to check the FCC regulations on this, as usually they cannot prohibit this.
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espaeth
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said by imrf :said by CableTool :I guess comcast doesnt offer 16/2? Oh wait.. they do. Not in Michigan they don't. Do they offer it in non-FiOs areas? They have 6/1, 8/2, and 50/5 here in MN. This is a Qwest territory with small pockets of Embarq service.
(No, I'm not counting powerboost in those numbers. I have the 8/2 package, upstream powerboost goes to 4mbps) |
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imrf
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Utica, MI | reply to cable fan
So what? That's PowerBoost, which is a joke. It only covers the first 20MB of a file, and fools everyone doing speed tests. |
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imrf
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Utica, MI
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said by CableTool :Your a big AT&T fan. Wrong, I'm not.
The fact that its still distance limited is also comical. Again, wrong. If you can get U-Verse, you can get all the speed tiers that they offer.
I just think for a provider to come into todays market with limited streams, SD and HD, slower speeds and still the same limitations theyve always dealt with is an odd move. I'm sure they did tons of survey to see how many tvs people have and watch at the same time and figured what they could offer at launch was acceptable, and clearly it is. Certainly not to the techie, but to their target customer, the average joe.
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cable fan
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speeds in Michigan are fine
mind you i live in a large apartment community in the 'burbs of Grand rapids
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Ive seen d/l speeds 2-3 times fast as this in other parts of grand rapids |
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scooby
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Schaumburg, IL
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I'm unfortunately stuck with Comcast until I can get my HOA to agree to let me put up a dish for D*. If uverse was available, I would definitely give it a try. I've never had a single issue with AT&T dsl while Comcast speeds and latency are always jumping around. AT&T dsl is also much cheaper.
Cheaper, more stable and reliable, no hidden caps, hmm sounds like a no brainer. Seven plus years and no issues. I could care less about speed. I want low latency, nearly 100% uptime, and cheap.
Cabletool, wasn't it you that said Comcast is not doing 3:1 in the Chicago land area? Why are we seeing it here in Schaumburg? I can confirm it and numerous others here have. Its pathetic. |
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
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join:2004-11-12
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said by imrf :said by CableTool :The entire Chicago Region has 16/2. Good for Chicago, the OP is in Michigan, which doesn't have 16/2 in it's sight. I brought up the use of all service at once because U-Verse limits what you can view in regards to HD. If one has nothing to do with the other then I should be watching HD on 5 sets if I want to. And that still makes no sense. Having 3 services has nothing to do with why only 1 HD stream is allowed. Everything has an allocated bandwidth allotment. They have the capability of doing more than 1 HD stream now, but from what I understand is it's a software issue on their gear. They have demoed 3 HDs and 2 SD on the current setup, and they could do more potentially with pair bonding. But lets face it, very few have more than 1 HD set and very few record more than 2 shows at once. I'm not using that as an excuse or anything like that. Im bashing an unfinished product. So do you bash Comcast's unfinished products? Face it, there is no tv or sat provider that has a "finished" product. They are all works in progress. Apparently not a whole lot are concerned about only 1 HD stream, since AT&T is installing a ton of people per week, regardless of your claimed win-back numbers. Sorry to hear about Michigans speed issue. It still doesnt change U-Verses lacking speeds across the board. Comcast is launching 16/2 cross country, FIOS or not ( I hate people talking about something they know nothing about ) Trialing 50/5 and Verizon is offering AMAZING tiers... and U-Verse puts their foot in the door lack lusterly.
Your a big AT&T fan. Thats GREAT! God Bless. Dont get up my ass about it?
AT&T BURSTS ONTO THE SCENE with 10/1.5. If that impresses you, thats great. The fact that its still distance limited is also comical.
I didnt say U-Verse wasnt installing people left and right. Most providers are. With new residents, churn, win backs, everyone is installing each day. I see the winbacks because of the possibility for a botched install post U-Verse affect the plant. We have to keep track of them.
I just think for a provider to come into todays market with limited streams, SD and HD, slower speeds and still the same limitations theyve always dealt with is an odd move.
Verizon did it right. AT&T did it half ass and are working to get up to par AFTER their launch. In my eyes its as limiting as Dish is. Im sure it fits a certain market. Competition is great. Weak competition is even greater. 
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imrf
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said by CableTool :The entire Chicago Region has 16/2. Good for Chicago, the OP is in Michigan, which doesn't have 16/2 in it's sight.
I brought up the use of all service at once because U-Verse limits what you can view in regards to HD. If one has nothing to do with the other then I should be watching HD on 5 sets if I want to. And that still makes no sense. Having 3 services has nothing to do with why only 1 HD stream is allowed. Everything has an allocated bandwidth allotment. They have the capability of doing more than 1 HD stream now, but from what I understand is it's a software issue on their gear. They have demoed 3 HDs and 2 SD on the current setup, and they could do more potentially with pair bonding. But lets face it, very few have more than 1 HD set and very few record more than 2 shows at once. I'm not using that as an excuse or anything like that.
Im bashing an unfinished product. So do you bash Comcast's unfinished products? Face it, there is no tv or sat provider that has a "finished" product. They are all works in progress. Apparently not a whole lot are concerned about only 1 HD stream, since AT&T is installing a ton of people per week, regardless of your claimed win-back numbers. |
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
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said by imrf :said by CableTool :I guess comcast doesnt offer 16/2? Oh wait.. they do. Not in Michigan they don't. Do they offer it in non-FiOs areas? We get win backs every day. Average time they have had U-Verse? Usually a week. I'm sure the same thing happens for RCN, WOW, AT&T and so on. I stated "You have FIVE.. and you can watch them all at once, while surfing at full speed and talking on the phone. Not one service affects another." Same with U-Verse. None of the service overlap. I don't even know why you brought that up. He will be another week long U-Verse customer. Maybe, maybe not. The entire Chicago Region has 16/2. No Verizon in site.
I brought up the use of all service at once because U-Verse limits what you can view in regards to HD. If one has nothing to do with the other then I should be watching HD on 5 sets if I want to.
For a new product, newish technology being launched to compete in a "new" market, U-Verse is wildly unpolished.
Im not bashing competition. Im bashing an unfinished product.
If Verizon launched I wouldnt be saying a peep.
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imrf
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said by CableTool :I guess comcast doesnt offer 16/2? Oh wait.. they do. Not in Michigan they don't. Do they offer it in non-FiOs areas?
We get win backs every day. Average time they have had U-Verse? Usually a week. I'm sure the same thing happens for RCN, WOW, AT&T and so on.
I stated "You have FIVE.. and you can watch them all at once, while surfing at full speed and talking on the phone. Not one service affects another." Same with U-Verse. None of the service overlap. I don't even know why you brought that up.
He will be another week long U-Verse customer. |
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