MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | What...the...hell? $100 for less than 1mbps upload? what in the hell are they smoking?
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: What...the...hell? Not everyone gives a crap about upload. | |
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 | elister
join:2006-07-17
Seattle, WA
| Re: What...the...hell? i give a crap about upload speeds. for those that qualify for their 7m / 934k, just order two, its almost the same price. i would never pay more to get a slower upload. more and more people need faster uploads thanks to cheap web hosting, digital cameras, slingbox, etc. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
| Re: What...the...hell? said by elister  :i give a crap about upload speeds. for those that qualify for their 7m / 934k, just order two, its almost the same price. i would never pay more to get a slower upload. more and more people need faster uploads thanks to cheap web hosting, digital cameras, slingbox, etc. What good is 2 7m/934k connections? All you'll be doing is getting 2 934k uploads and 2 7m downloads.. Its not like it can be combined bandwidth for one download/upload.
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC
| Re: What...the...hell? said by Tzale :said by elister :i give a crap about upload speeds. for those that qualify for their 7m / 934k, just order two, its almost the same price. i would never pay more to get a slower upload. more and more people need faster uploads thanks to cheap web hosting, digital cameras, slingbox, etc. What good is 2 7m/934k connections? All you'll be doing is getting 2 934k uploads and 2 7m downloads.. Its not like it can be combined bandwidth for one download/upload. Can't you use a duo LAN router to do LB? | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| Re: What...the...hell? said by jrsmooth :said by Tzale :said by elister :i give a crap about upload speeds. for those that qualify for their 7m / 934k, just order two, its almost the same price. i would never pay more to get a slower upload. more and more people need faster uploads thanks to cheap web hosting, digital cameras, slingbox, etc. What good is 2 7m/934k connections? All you'll be doing is getting 2 934k uploads and 2 7m downloads.. Its not like it can be combined bandwidth for one download/upload. Can't you use a duo LAN router to do LB? No, that is load balancing...
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC | Re: What...the...hell? Isn't LB stands for Load Balance? | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| Re: What...the...hell? said by jrsmooth :Isn't LB stands for Load Balance? Yeah, what I meant is that load balancing isn't what is needed here. It is not possible unless both the server and client are in on the game. | |
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join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT | Actually, you can. There are number of linux tools that allow you to line bond two connections and make them "one". | |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | Re: What...the...hell? You can't bond them unless both ends create a multilink. What you are talking about ends up being a load balanced connection. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| Re: What...the...hell? said by battleop :You can't bond them unless both ends create a multilink. What you are talking about ends up being a load balanced connection. Exactly. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | If your 1337 you can use a VPN that splits traffic over 2 IPs, and recombines the data at the VPN server where it goes out to the internet as 1 IP. | |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| Re: What...the...hell? I recently had a customer tell me that at his house he could see 6 wireless networks with 6Mb Comcast connections. He said he had bonded them together to get a "T3" speed. I looked at him and said "Riiiiigggghhhtttt" and went back to what I was doing. | |
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join:2003-10-19
Tacoma, WA
| Re: What...the...hell? said by battleop :I recently had a customer tell me that at his house he could see 6 wireless networks with 6Mb Comcast connections. He said he had bonded them together to get a "T3" speed. I looked at him and said "Riiiiigggghhhtttt" and went back to what I was doing. That's funny that you said that.
When I was living in Pullman there were wireless WEP connections everywhere.
I used aircrack-ng to crack about 10 of them, then I bought ANOTHER wireless USB lan card which used the rt61 chipset.
I then configured my Linux kernel running SUSE 10.2 with iptables and the proper modules, which was hard to do because most of the modules were out dated and there was no new documentation on them.
I set up my main chain to switch interfaces every 2 connections.
After all of the kernel stuff was setup, i then setup firefox to use pipeling which would utilize both connections.
THEN, the fun part  I used my usenet client to max out both connections...
Now this took me about a week on top of a full time job, and it wasn't easy. But I did manage to combine the connections together and it worked only with limited protocols that supported multiple connections.
The point of my story, its definitely possible, but not in the way most people realize. | |
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| TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
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3 edits | said by Dogfather :Not everyone gives a crap about upload. Only the people that DON'T upload YouTube videos, DON'T send email attachments, DON'T have to upload files to a remote server/VPN, DON'T send files to their buddies.
Let's face it, the number of people meeting the above criteria are in ever diminishing numbers.
The internet isn't just about receiving information anymore, the need for people to send (upload) is only going to increase, and in bigger and bigger files.
I for one am quite irritated by slow upload speeds. I have two connections specially for the purpose of being able to upload stuff in the background while not having other activities interfere with the process. If you've ever had to restore a 2GB pack of files to a server over 1mbps upload speed, you'd know exactly where I'm coming from.
Now, I guess you could argue that most users who upload stuff in moderate amounts simply don't care and just tough it out, but that's besides the point.
IMO, the low upload-to-download-speed ratios given by ISPs come from the fact that their general customer base is misinformed and not very savvy about how the internet actually works. Most people are surprised when you tell them they aren't likely getting anywhere close to 20mbps off most websites. Yet, people keep asking for faster faster faster, and the ISP gives, because they'll get more revenue. It's about the money, not about providing a balanced service that people will actually use. And what do they do when people actually start using that speed they paid for? Yep, throttle throttle throttle and curse at that "5% of users that use 30% of the bandwidth". | |
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join:2005-09-01
Winnebago, IL
1 edit | Re: What...the...hell? Count me in for that small minority. Try administrating 11+ source servers and having to upload 30mb+ maps to the box on a routine basis. Ontop of uploading multiple files over 3-4mb. All on a slow ass 60kb/s connection.
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| Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan
| said by Dogfather :Not everyone gives a crap about upload. Haha, I like chief Wiggum. He's as fat as he is stupid. lol | |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Dogfather :Not everyone gives a crap about upload. The amount of ACK packets that you'd need to send for a 20Mbps download would flood an 896k upload.
In short, it does not make sense. | |
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NYPD
join:2001-02-21
Nanuet, NY | As the famous American showman P.T. Barnum once said, ~There`s a sucker born every minute~ | |
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wmsaun2
@comcast.net
| Qwest targets the areas where FTTN is going in. So, let's do the math. For about the same price as comcast for 12/1 meg (50.00) one can jump from comcast dying bandwith to an Upload near 3 times Comcast for about the same price. OK, 1 meg up is not what we techies really want, but it is triple what most have with comcast in the target areas. Why would one pay the same monies for .384 when I can get 1 mep up and faster down? The same darn price. OK, 3-4 up would have been nice, but I am tired of Comcast crappy .384. I'll take Qwest 1.0 anyday !! Besides Comcast just gets slower daily as saturation has doomed them. Qwest has the smarts to place extra fiber innerduct for the future if needed. The coolpeds are expandable up to four 1148's and if public demands up/down can change fairly easy with public demand. Marketing is business, Qwest sells as with all others Download speed, as most consumers don't even know nor care about upload. Only us. And remember, down/up depends on the db loss from the Coolped (x-box) so I assume barely 30% can even get 20 down. Depends on cable lenght from node and Gauge. IF you get Qwest, ask the installer to cut your bridge-tap at the term. He/she will know exactly what you are asking. Price for life (2 year contract) is awesome, because Comcast raises the price every 6 months !!
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