DCT-700 data in Verizon FIOS TV

DCT-700 data in Verizon FIOS TV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20370395 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:59:53 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:59:53 EDT DCT700 Diagnostics Menu posted in sticky http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393051 GeekGirl1 : I dug into the diagnostics menu. Full details now available in this post: »Digital Adapter (DCT700) Diagnostics Menu]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393051 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:55:58 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388763 GeekGirl1 : The DCT700 at least has the brains to tell you something is wrong. The firmware in the HD-DVR (QIP6416) doesn't do that- all you get is a blank screen or refusal to change channels. No clue why Verizon didn't upgrade the firmware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388763 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:46:56 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388553 amarryat :

said by GeekGirl1

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Interesting that Channel 46 had a blue screen which said "This station having temporary technical difficulties".

That's what it says whenever it can't receive a channel. I made a mistake when I was hooking/unhooking wires, and attached the cable in to the TV out. It gave that same message on all channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388553 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:03:00 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388456 GeekGirl1 : DCT700 arrived today (2 units). No problems to setup (composite video / stereo cable) or activate.

Diagnostics menu looks more advanced than what's in my HD-DVR. Hit Power, then OK to enter diagnostics menu.

Interesting that Channel 46 had a blue screen which said "This station having temporary technical difficulties". My HD-DVR just wouldn't go there, no error. DCT700 must have newer firmware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20388456 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:41:28 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380413 Rattler :

said by matcarl

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No problem, that channel is pretty useless since it only goes to channel 49 and because most people would use the IMG anyway.

Oh, I agree. The problem rears its face when you have added packages and the DCT-700 is in a room that doesn't have convenient visual access to a box that has the IMG on it. Heck, it's even a problem if you only have the most basic service and can't get listings for channels like SciFi, Disc, TLC, etc.

For those of us who are getting the box free, there really isn't an awful lot of room to gripe - we're getting much more than we had with just the analog tuner in the TV. Those who are paying $3.99/mo for the bottom-of-the-line box might have a legit point to say that the basic (FiOS Premiere) channel listings should, at least, be available, somewhere.

But, the whole discussion is moot - V* will provide what they provide.
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said by matcarl

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What do you mean? That scrolling guide is put on channel 49 with Verizon messages and Weather Channel messages whether it's analog or digital.
Edit: It's not a guide, it's messages, is that what you mean?
Edit again: Or do you mean the TV Guide Network on channel 48?

I am standing here beside myself (quote from: "Short Circuit"), with a foot in my mouth and a gasted flabber!

Y'know, I have never even looked at CH-48 (TVGN) on either STB. I only briefly checked to see if I had analog channels on one set in the house (on the day of installation, 2+ months ago) and that's why I thought the scrolling channel guide was on CH-49 on the analogs - CRS.

Edit: I also see that it only shows programming for CH-2 thru CH-49, with nothing for 50 and above. Wonder if they'll ever change that. Although, it would take forever to scroll through all the channels available via the STBs.

Thank you for giving me a whack on the side of the head... :p
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Edit: It's not a guide, it's messages, is that what you mean?
Edit again: Or do you mean the TV Guide Network on channel 48? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380074 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:02:48 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380054 Rattler : Just called and 2 DCT-700's are on their way via UPS (supposedly).

Question... IIRC, TV's that are directly connected to the coax (no STB) have a scrolling guide (CH-49?). I have not checked, but is there a similar guide (other than IMG) that's accessible on the digital channels tuned by the DCT-700?

CH-49 on the STBs is a weather channel.
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said by swantzilla

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Does the DCT-700 output composite video? The one I have does only works with RF out.

Yes, the composite outputs (and the L&R audio) work as that is how mine is hooked up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379927 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:36:27 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379875 birdfeedr :

said by Rattler

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Of course, there may be several months of "negotiating" with V*'s billing department to get the "free" status of the boxes established and maintained but that is to be expected (or to be pleasantly surprised if it all goes right from the get-go :uhh: ).

Make sure you call the GoDigital number mentioned in the letter. I don't have it in front of me so I can't repeat it.

If you call the regular FSC number, it will be treated as a billable equipment order.

My DCT has RF output and component video output (yellow is video, red and white are L and R audio).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379875 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:26:49 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379829 keyboards :

said by swantzilla

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Does the DCT-700 output composite video? The one I have does only works with RF out.

It's supposed to have both RF and composite video / audio (at least the one I used to have with Comcrap did).
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Can I call and get another box? I want to be fair....I could act stupid and say "I thought I was only allowed one but found out I could get two....", but that's not my style.

Suggestions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379776 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:12:37 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379722 Rattler :

said by birdfeedr

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Then again, they are making these available at no charge to satisfy FCC restrictions on no-encryption on devices for analog changeover. For a limited time, mind you. ;) Then it's back to $3 a month.

Just to clarify this, the OFFER to provide free DCT-700's is valid for a limited time after you receive the letter/notification. If you respond to the offer in that allotted time, the boxes remain free for as long as a) You live at your current address and, b) You keep FiOS-TV service. If either of the previous becomes not true, you either have to give the boxes back or be charged for them.

In my case, the letter says I have to respond by 05/22/08 to take advantage of the freebie status. If I respond after that, they'd be $3.99/mo.

Of course, there may be several months of "negotiating" with V*'s billing department to get the "free" status of the boxes established and maintained but that is to be expected (or to be pleasantly surprised if it all goes right from the get-go :uhh: ).
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said by JayMan 007

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I don't know what it can do on Verizon, only what it would do on Comcast.

Since VZ has the ability to set the features in firmware, and they want to distinguish between the DCT-700 and the QP-2500, it makes sense to limit the lower end equipment. $3 monthly vs. $5 monthly.

Then again, they are making these available at no charge to satisfy FCC restrictions on no-encryption on devices for analog changeover. For a limited time, mind you. ;) Then it's back to $3 a month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379272 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:42:29 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378938 JayMan 007 :

said by darcilicious

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None of these features were available from Verizon when you plugged in your TV directly with the coax from the wall. If you want those features then get them from the SD STB -- right where they've always been...

Well, not from Verizon, but from the TV they kinda were... , I could select what channels I want to add/delete from the TV.

Some TV's (marked with TV Guide) can get program info from I think PBS ??.. shouldn't the 700 be able to that also?

I don't know what it can do on Verizon, only what it would do on Comcast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378938 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:30:01 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376526 noping :

I don't think such an idea would be very expensive, just the purchase of an additional piece of equipment in the offices

1) $ for that "additional equipment" - and as we all know, Verizon is really cheap
2) customers with multiple SD STBs@4.99/ea. would return them all (except for one box, just to continue to receive all channels) and use the free adapters instead - at least, that's what I'd do]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376526 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:28:06 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376463 GeekGirl1 : I just ordered my digital adapters. In preparation, I found the installation guide, which has a LOT more tech info than the user guide.

Probably posted elsewhere, but you can get if from Comcast: ;) »www.comcast.com/medialibrary/1/1···0man.pdf

Specs are in Appendix A (including RF levels)
Page B-2 shows how to get into the diagnostics menu.

Give me 5 - 7 days to get mine from Verizon and I'll take a crack at some of this stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376463 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:14:50 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376002 birdfeedr :

said by JayMan 007

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and the ability to password protect shows based on ratings so my 7 year old doesn't watch skin-o-max in the other room, when I think he's watching Disney :)

There is some sort of mechanism for blocking on the DCT-700. I haven't set it up yet.

And the cat hasn't figured out the remote yet. He only gets to watch Animal Planet. Absolutely loves Big Cat Diary. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376002 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:34:12 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375466 darcilicious :

said by JayMan 007

said by compu5020 :

Why doesn't Verizon take one of their unoccupied channels and send a secondary version of the guide data that the DCT-700 can recieve? I don't think such an idea would be very expensive, just the purchase of an additional piece of equipment in the offices, and they have plenty of open channels anyway that could be used. Even without widgets or VOD, the device would be great if they just made this little change. If they don't have the rights to a guide to use, just put a bunch of programmers in a room for a day and tell them to make a piece of very basic channel guide software.

None of these features were available from Verizon when you plugged in your TV directly with the coax from the wall. If you want those features then get them from the SD STB -- right where they've always been...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375466 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:49:34 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375385 JayMan 007 :

And while their at it, let me create favorites, or delete unwanted channels...
and the ability to password protect shows based on ratings so my 7 year old doesn't watch skin-o-max in the other room, when I think he's watching Disney :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375385 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:34:36 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375321 anon : Why doesn't Verizon take one of their unoccupied channels and send a secondary version of the guide data that the DCT-700 can recieve? I don't think such an idea would be very expensive, just the purchase of an additional piece of equipment in the offices, and they have plenty of open channels anyway that could be used. Even without widgets or VOD, the device would be great if they just made this little change. If they don't have the rights to a guide to use, just put a bunch of programmers in a room for a day and tell them to make a piece of very basic channel guide software.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375321 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:24:15 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375227 Rattler :

said by fiosfscsa

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communication to dct 700 is one way only, that is it receives data only. not sure why cannot receive guide in the same way. most likely a memory issue with that box

On FiOS, Widgets, VOD and the Guide come over the internet frequencies on the coax (not over the video frequencies). I don't believe the DCT-700 is capable of receiving those signals.

The time must be sent over the video band so the DCT-700 does receive that. I know that if my router (not an Actiontec) or NIM-100 is shut down, I get no Widgets, VOD or Guide updates on my STBs but still get the time. I am set up with internet over Ethernet from the ONT.

With Comcast, the Guide and On Demand are sent on the video frequencies so the DCT-700 can receive them. There was another thread here that explained that but I couldn't find it off-hand.
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said by fiosfscsa

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communication to dct 700 is one way only, that is it receives data only. not sure why cannot receive guide in the same way. most likely a memory issue with that box

I think its how it was implemented.
I had a DCT-700 with Comcast.
With it, I had guide info and could get On Demand.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20374080 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:45:54 EDT Re: DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370897 fiosfscsa : communication to dct 700 is one way only, that is it receives data only. not sure why cannot receive guide in the same way. most likely a memory issue with that box]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370897 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:27:33 EDT DCT-700 data http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370395 birdfeedr : In this thread Rattler said:

said by Rattler

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From what I've read here, the DCT-700 does NOT pull an IP from the router, hence, no guide, widgets or VOD either. So, you should not see it in the router's device list.

Since the converter box displays the current time, is there a mechanism that it uses to fetch the time? Well, obviously there is, but is there other data that it can receive, and send as well?

If it does not show up as a MoCA device, what is it talking to to get data?

Just curious. What do you think?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370395 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:57:16 EDT