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wierdo
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Re: Dem contributing trial lawyers & election politics holdup
said by amigo_boy  :For example, Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was illegal according to the letter of the law. The 13th amendment made it legal. His action was still illegal by the letter of the law, but most people would say it was legal by the spirit of the law (the larger context of how it was made legal later). Yet again, you find yourself on the wrong side of an analogy. The emancipation proclamation did not apply to US territory, it only applied to the states in rebellion. The commander in chief, especially back then when there were few laws to govern the use of that authority, could proclaim whatever he pleased to be the law of the land in foreign territory. At the time, the rebellious states were foreign territory.
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amigo_boy
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| said by wierdo : The emancipation proclamation did not apply to US territory, it only applied to the states in rebellion. The commander in chief, especially back then when there were few laws to govern the use of that authority, could proclaim whatever he pleased to be the law of the land in foreign territory. At the time, the rebellious states were foreign territory. The problem is that Lincoln insisted the states had no right to leave the union, that it was a domestic dispute, not a war against a foreign territory.
This is partly why Lincoln opposed some of his generals who, before the proclamation, refused to return runaway slaves to their owners. The generals justified this by calling slaves spoils of war. Lincoln didn't believe the states had withdrawn from the union and their rights. It's also why Lincoln originally favored compensation to slave states who voluntarily freed their slaves.
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ackman
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said by TKJunkMail :said by ackman : It is documented that Bush and fascist cronies started illegally wiretapping long before 9/11/01. The US has been tapping the phone systems since the 50's, including Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy and all the other liberal Dems. And this won't change if Obama or Hillary gets elected president. Actually, it will be quite entertaining to hear all the dim-witted narrow minded conservatives squeal like stuck pigs about wiretapping if a democrat wins the White House. Funny how little punk conservatives love to throw around "liberal" as a derogatory label, as if it's a bad thing to be a free thinker and differ from a narrow convention held by people so frightened of change. Hey, conservatives, look behind you, it's Bin Laden! BOO! Ha ha... | |
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