roc5955
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Re: All acquited
said by RangerTX  :If an officer thinks he/she sees a gun what do you want them to do? Stop, make sure they really see a gun before shooting? I am usually anti-cops but in this case, cops had justification to shoot if one of them thought they see a gun. Shoot to disable, not to kill. Besides, 50 shots, would have probably killed a mastodon. Stopping to change clips proves to me that the officer was in the wrong, and panicked unnecessarily, IMNSHO.
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| said by roc5955 :said by RangerTX :If an officer thinks he/she sees a gun what do you want them to do? Stop, make sure they really see a gun before shooting? I am usually anti-cops but in this case, cops had justification to shoot if one of them thought they see a gun. Shoot to disable, not to kill. Besides, 50 shots, would have probably killed a mastodon. Stopping to change clips proves to me that the officer was in the wrong, and panicked unnecessarily, IMNSHO. An officer is trained, to shoot to kill. You shoot 3 bullets and reevaluate the situation. They got little trigger happy but it don't change the fact that they thought they seen a gun. |
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said by roc5955 :said by RangerTX :If an officer thinks he/she sees a gun what do you want them to do? Stop, make sure they really see a gun before shooting? I am usually anti-cops but in this case, cops had justification to shoot if one of them thought they see a gun. Shoot to disable, not to kill. Besides, 50 shots, would have probably killed a mastodon. Stopping to change clips proves to me that the officer was in the wrong, and panicked unnecessarily, IMNSHO. "panicked unnecessarily" Is that criminal now?
said by Judge Cooperman's verdict :
The police response with respect to each defendant was not proved to be
criminal, i.e. beyond a reasonable doubt. Questions of carelessness and
incompetence must be left to other forums.
»graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/p···ICT3.pdf |
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roc5955
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| If it isn't illegal for a police officer to panic unnecessarily, than it should be grounds for said officer's dismissal.
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Mount Vernon, NY | That may well be but it doesn't warrant conviction on a criminal charge. We'll see what a civil jury decides.
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said by roc5955 :said by RangerTX :If an officer thinks he/she sees a gun what do you want them to do? Stop, make sure they really see a gun before shooting? I am usually anti-cops but in this case, cops had justification to shoot if one of them thought they see a gun. Shoot to disable, not to kill. Besides, 50 shots, would have probably killed a mastodon. Stopping to change clips proves to me that the officer was in the wrong, and panicked unnecessarily, IMNSHO. I like your logic, but it's my understanding that police officers, etc. are not trained to shoot to wound. If the gun comes out, it's taught to be used effectively to kill. That's my understanding, but I could be wrong. Only one retired cop in the family, so no one I can ask. I think there is a police officer or two on this site, and may be some FBI agents that could logout and post as anon. 
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said by roc5955 :clips magazines...They weren't using M1 Garands |
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said by roc5955 :If it isn't illegal for a police officer to panic unnecessarily, than it should be grounds for said officer's dismissal. See, I think they did panic. And yes, I think they should be fired... but to try them in a criminal court means you have to prove motive, which is lacking.
It's a tragedy for everyone really. And the political grandstanding WILL NOT HELP.
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