I hope they're working on something big.. in OptimumOnline

I hope they're working on something big.. in OptimumOnline http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20385755 en Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:21:14 EDT Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:21:14 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466266 anon :

said by Jmartz

said by boots803432 :

said by BLUNTED 1

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We'll see what they do but for now Fiber has the win easily the way it is split up and even if they double the amount of homes it will still be way better than DOCSIS 3.0 can do.

i agree. fiber will always top coax. fiber is futureproof where as coax is limited.

Nothing is future proof. Something will come along at some point that is better than fiber. Just remember, your 100Mb hard drive will have tons of storage for years!

u have a good point. nothing is future proof. but i rather take fiber than coax like i rather take 100mb drive than 10mb drive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466266 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:19:03 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463549 Jmartz :

said by boots803432 :

said by BLUNTED 1

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We'll see what they do but for now Fiber has the win easily the way it is split up and even if they double the amount of homes it will still be way better than DOCSIS 3.0 can do.

i agree. fiber will always top coax. fiber is futureproof where as coax is limited.

Nothing is future proof. Something will come along at some point that is better than fiber. Just remember, your 100Mb hard drive will have tons of storage for years!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463549 Sat, 10 May 2008 23:13:15 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454371 anon :

said by BLUNTED 1

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We'll see what they do but for now Fiber has the win easily the way it is split up and even if they double the amount of homes it will still be way better than DOCSIS 3.0 can do.

i agree. fiber will always top coax. fiber is futureproof where as coax is limited.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454371 Thu, 08 May 2008 22:43:05 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433667 BLUNTED 1 : We'll see what they do but for now Fiber has the win easily the way it is split up and even if they double the amount of homes it will still be way better than DOCSIS 3.0 can do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433667 Mon, 05 May 2008 10:27:48 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432957 Jmartz :

said by BLUNTED 1

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GPON split between 64 homes - 1.2gb/2.4gb

18.75 mb upload per home
37.5 mb download per home

Now with DOCSIS 3.0 it will be way less speed and split between more than 64 homes so the Fiber wins hands down.

Do you seriously think Verizon isn't going to over sell that stuff at some point? Right now they don't have to, but just like Optimum Online, things will change in short order when they decide to clamp down and start making money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432957 Mon, 05 May 2008 03:33:03 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432051 BLUNTED 1 : He is kinda right because you can't match the speeds of Fiber even with DOCSIS 3.0 because of the amount of users on a node so unless they cut the amount of users on a node and upgrade the bandwidth you might not ever see the full speeds advertised unless its 3 A.M.

When Fios upgrades everyone to GPON it might be split between 32 and 64 home and even at that rate everyone has some very good speeds depending on the package you get.

If GPON was split between 64 homes with the highest package advertised it would still be very high speeds per home.

GPON split between 64 homes - 1.2gb/2.4gb

18.75 mb upload per home
37.5 mb download per home

Now with DOCSIS 3.0 it will be way less speed and split between more than 64 homes so the Fiber wins hands down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432051 Sun, 04 May 2008 22:13:22 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20431462 anon : please stop misinforming people about stuff you dont know]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20431462 Sun, 04 May 2008 19:47:05 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20431245 anon :

said by majortom1029

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Streetspirit i was told by a cable supervisor that boost still shares its bandwidth at the node with everybody else so if your node got a couple of boost users ontop of an already screwed up node then you might see those problems.

IT looks like to me cablevision prob saw that your node needs to be split and saw that your the only one complaining and they prob said that only one person is complaining so we will see how long it takes before more people complain.

cablevision can never match speeds like fios. there is only 38 megabits shared between dozens to hundreds on a node.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20431245 Sun, 04 May 2008 18:47:23 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424931 majortom1029 : Streetspirit i was told by a cable supervisor that boost still shares its bandwidth at the node with everybody else so if your node got a couple of boost users ontop of an already screwed up node then you might see those problems.

IT looks like to me cablevision prob saw that your node needs to be split and saw that your the only one complaining and they prob said that only one person is complaining so we will see how long it takes before more people complain. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424931 Sat, 03 May 2008 07:27:45 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424734 BLUNTED 1 : Its not stealing I am paying for it but have it installed at my friends house and only I am using it. If they had it installed here I would get it but they won't do it yet so that was my only option.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424734 Sat, 03 May 2008 03:16:20 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424729 anon :

said by BLUNTED 1

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The only reason I do have Fios internet is because the house next to my building can get Fios and my landlord owns it and my friend lives there so I asked to install Fios there and got the ok so I ran a 160 foot cat 5 cable there and got internet only so I got lucky that I was able to get that and I couldn't be happier with the SUPER CONSISTENT speeds I get now.

So Verizon gave you the OK to steal service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424729 Sat, 03 May 2008 03:13:11 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424391 BLUNTED 1 : I am almost in the same boat as you but Fios is still not available to order in my apartment and I cannot get them to wire it even though it is 4 apartments no matter who I call and I am friends with the landlord and have permission to do anything I want and still a no go.

The only reason I do have Fios internet is because the house next to my building can get Fios and my landlord owns it and my friend lives there so I asked to install Fios there and got the ok so I ran a 160 foot cat 5 cable there and got internet only so I got lucky that I was able to get that and I couldn't be happier with the SUPER CONSISTENT speeds I get now.

I hope you get something soon Dave because I have been there and it sucks !!!! Good luck :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20424391 Sat, 03 May 2008 00:38:09 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20423267 StreetSpirit : Perhaps, but honestly, I don't think that is the case here.

Besides, those users would have to be running without a break for the past six months, without sleep, computer crashes, and power outages (to which this building is prone due to antiquated interior AC wiring) - I use a commercial UPS. As the node is on the street, I don't loose cable, and have been using a UPS for years...

Let's not forget that I stopped seeing >16mbps around six months ago, consistently, backed up by many posted speed tests. :)

Also, the last thing that happened was I had the area Supervisor here, two boost techs and a guy from RFDN at the same time for a good several hours. I seriously doubt Cablevision would go to that expense unless the local Supervisor felt the problem was "undiagnosed". If it's a congestion problem, there would be no reason for them to spend hours running a drop up 15 flights of stairs to rule out in building wiring...

They said that the BOOST channels my modem was being assigned are hardly used, and the customers are definitely residential in this area. Heck, I recently found out that the Verizon CO local to my condo has had Verizon FIOS wiring before the others which are now live, but due to the fact that it's in a not-so-profitable area (residential, lower-middle class), we'll probably see FIOS years after people 4 blocks away do.

Anyway.. You might be right, I can't say I'm a cable engineer in any capacity.

Regards,
Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20423267 Fri, 02 May 2008 20:06:40 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20420312 majortom1029 : Wouldnt 3 users running boost all out plus some 15/2 users running stuff all out screw up your node?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20420312 Fri, 02 May 2008 09:46:07 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20419564 StreetSpirit : >Streetspirit are you getting boost upload speeds or are they both in the regular package speeds?

>Something at cablevisions end was only giving us regular speeds (was a network wide problem or something like that they had to do some major hunting to find it).

Tom, uploads are ~4.5-5mbps, well in the Boost range. If 60-70% of my traffic wasn't upstream, I would've went to standard OOL a long time ago.

Only downstream is affected. I have a good 4-6 months of continuous tests in the morning hours in the private forum. Cablevision's own GUI speed test shows 12-16mbps downstream. FTP downloads never exceed ~1.6MB/s since December 2007. Well except for a few hours on February 1st when the speeds rose to 29mbps for a few hours then promptly fell back down. :)

About a month ago, Cablevision has called in the Big Boys. It felt like I was playing host to an Engineers convention. :) I had the local plant supervisor, two Boost business techs and a rep from RFDN (backbone) testing here about a month back for almost an entire day. They used their own laptop and modem, and even ran a fresh drop all the way down 15 flights of stairs to the media converter on the street to see if it's an inside-building wiring problem.

I'd really like to get this corrected as of course with DOCSIS 3 coming, being stuck at 16mbps downstream would TOTALLY suck.

The supervisor mentioned that there are only 3 or 4 other BOOST users on my node/media converter. This "feels" like some network element is bad. It isn't congestion.

Regards,
Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20419564 Fri, 02 May 2008 01:55:30 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20419107 Jmartz : I don't have BOOST, BOOST in my area is just as bad and offers only a slight increase in speed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20419107 Thu, 01 May 2008 23:23:05 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20418743 majortom1029 : but are your upload speeds regular or boost?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20418743 Thu, 01 May 2008 22:16:54 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20418176 Jmartz : My download speed right now is very low. So low that my upload is faster. Been happening every evening this week, if it doesn't get better by tomorrow I plan to call them. It feels like I am on dialup right now. During the morning and early afternoon hours everything is fine, but it just seems to get bad after dinner.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20418176 Thu, 01 May 2008 20:05:25 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412150 RickNY :

said by r34p3rex

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i really hope they're working on something big

They're saving up their pennies to buy Newsday for $650 million: »www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzne···rack=rss]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412150 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:12:50 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411831 jaa :

said by StreetSpirit

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I suspect it's a faulty something, somewhere... Nothing more than that.

Yes, probably a $25 part that they would gladly replace if they knew where it was...
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NOTHING justifies terrorism. We don't negotiate with terrorists. Those that support terrorists are terrorists.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411831 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:07:28 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411779 majortom1029 :

said by StreetSpirit

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That gives me a little bit of a re-assurance, but to say I'm not fed up with this would be a lie. Anyone would be, but again, I do not expect a fix in a day. Also, another thing which reassures me a bit is user JohnDrenZ

Streetspirit are you getting boost upload speeds or are they both in the regular package speeds?

Something at cablevisions end was only giving us regular speeds (was a network wide problem or something like that they had to do some major hunting to find it).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411779 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:58:34 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411447 StreetSpirit : That gives me a little bit of a re-assurance, but to say I'm not fed up with this would be a lie. Anyone would be, but again, I do not expect a fix in a day. Also, another thing which reassures me a bit is user JohnDrenZ

was experiencing downstream problems. A few days ago, his setup was repaired and according to John, his speeds are holding.

One way to redress the long amount of time is to issue some [promised] credit, and wait it out. I also mentioned that I tend to be a bleeding edge person when it comes to technology, and it would really bum me out if CVC was to roll out new DOCSIS 3 tiers in a year with me stuck at 12-16mbit at best...

Ironic, the supervisor who came said that at most there are a handful of BOOST users on my node, and completely ruled out congestion when seeing that my speeds were bad all the time.

The BOOST techies with him agreed.. I suspect it's a faulty something, somewhere... Nothing more than that. Eventually they'll find it.

So, here's to hope. :)
Regards,
Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20411447 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:03:00 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20410313 majortom1029 : Trust me the cablevision guys who work behind the scenes know there is a problem. HEre at the library when we got boost we had speed problems (libraries get better support then home or businesses) and they worked on the problem for two days.

One of the cablevision supervisiors who came to fix the problem told me that so many people are signing up for boost that the network cant handle it.

That starting in the babylon area they are splitting nodes to help compensate.

They eventually got our speed problems with boost fixed so i say keep hounding tech support and ask for a higher level of support.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20410313 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:21:38 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20408723 StreetSpirit : No congestion here, working with RDFN, techs and supervisors from 12/2007, and I'm not seeing anything higher than 15-16mbit at best. It's as if someone flipped a switch.

True, I am the exception to the rule. And prior to December 2007, I had very good, steady 32-34mbps speeds.

There are pockets of problems, and it doesn't seem like OOL has done much in the last 6 months to fiugre out the cause. Yes, repetitive tests showing the slowdown are fine and dandy, but after you do a few dozen of them with assorted techs and on your own, it kinda gets old.

Anyway , as I said, YMMV. My luck hasn't been great this year with OOL. Contacting the people in the support forum would be the best, first step.

David]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20408723 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:49:33 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20387510 BLUNTED 1 : Mine is kinda like that but I know mine is due to congestion in my area and in the early morning hours it is fast but heh I called and complained and it won't get fixed for me from what I see.

Is your problem with speeds all the time or just during peak hours when everyone is on ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20387510 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:41:12 EDT Re: I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385808 RickNY :
You should not be receiving those speeds, and if you are, you should be contacting support to get your problem resolved. If telephone support has been unable to rectify your situation, you should post a message in the OOL Direct forum here.

Myself, and many others are receiving the advertised Boost speeds (and in some cases, better). Yes, there are other members reporting problems with their connection, but they represent the exception rather than the rule.

Rick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385808 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:07:56 EDT I hope they're working on something big.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385755 r34p3rex : OOL has been really spotty lately, with downstream ranging from 1mbps to 10mbps (i'm on boost too).. uploads seem fine at 4.5mbps

i really hope they're working on something big or fixing something because sometimes it gets slow to the point that ntohing loads at all.. hopefully it's not the nodes getting overly saturated]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385755 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:01:26 EDT