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karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
iraq

Has anyone actually LOOKED at Money?

If you look at a $1.00 bill, you will notice the following words...

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private".

That means very simply, if you HAVE a BILL for $1.00, then you have every LEGAL RIGHT to pay that bill with a $1.00 bill.

The problem here is that the BILL is for a certain amount, but they are attempting to charge you MORE than that, by adding on a 'service charge'. That should be ILLEGAL. Your BILL is your BILL.

Look at it this way, how will you feel when they start charging a $3.00 fee to pay by check. Don't think they won't, and it would be LEGAL, because a CHECK is not legal tender. What if they charged you %10 to use a credit card, again, not a problem, because a credit card is not legal tender. The US dollar is the ultimate legal tender, and can be used to settle ANY debt in US dollars (which is what your bill is)

I for one would like to see a state attorney general take on this ILLEGAL practice. If the BILL is $10.00, the a $10.00 dollar bill can LEGALLY satisfy that debt. If the BILL was $12.00, then they could charge $12.00, but that's not the case here. The BILL CAN BE PAID IN CASH. PERIOD. NO SURCHARGE, NO EXTRA FEES. You are settling a debt, and the US dollar is legal tender to settle that debt. Charging extra is STEALING from the person.
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The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity!


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

At FedEx, they won't even accept cash. I can't even begin to tell how many times I'd been frustrated by their office when I tried to send a package and then be denied because I had cash but no check or card to pay with. (this was before I got myself a debit card, finally)


SKYWARP

join:2005-02-02
Portland, OR

reply to karlmarx
I'd try to bring a civil case against them based on this very premise, if it were done to me.

You would probably get some hush money in the form of a settlement and it might get the company to look at the continued risk of the policy.

You can only communicate to corportations in the medium that they understand, money. If it costs them money, they will make adjustments, if it earns them money, they won't.



jimbo48

join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

Plenty of business refuse to accept bills larger than 20.00 or accept coin in lieu of paper money but its not right. With Fed Ex its perfectly legal for them to refuse to take your money in exchange for services because they haven't performed the service that you would owe a bill on. You can either pay them via a debit/credit card or not use their service.
Then there is the question of where to get the money to file a civil case and hire a bloodsucker(aka lawyer) to represent you in the court of law. No money? No justice served here- show me the money and you'll have a crack at equal and fair legal recourse, without money- you may as well be a homeless person (oh wait the taxpayers payfor their legal needs-scratch that analogy).


Talis

join:2001-06-21
Houston, TX

reply to SKYWARP
There is no law on the books that REQUIRES anyone to accept Federal Reserve Bank Notes in payment for anything.



jimbo48

join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA

That is correct. a piece of legislation in of 1965 re-established the legal tender thing BUT there is stil NO law the requires private business to be forced to accept any coin or paper money for their prodsucts or services.



rob_in_chatt
Premium
join:2004-09-17
Chattanooga, TN

reply to Talis
meaning you can still accept bails of hay or duck feathers for payment if you so desire.


GRR

join:2001-08-19
Schenectady, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL

PLEASE- enough whinning. Just don't use these companies- there are alternatives! Better yet, when posting these articles that are sure to inflame users- post that company's complaint address. Rather then whine hear- Oh Woe is Me- write them a letter and tell them what you think and what you plan to do- like switch carriers, tell all your friends, call some regulatory body, etc. Write a real letter addressed to a real executive. Blah Blah Blah. There are many injustices in life- companies treating their customers like IDIOTS who will eat garbage all day long is not one of them.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to karlmarx
I agree 100%. I hate feeling that I'm being penalized for using legal tender vs. ETF or check.

I take it then that there is the other side of the cup....
AT&T is charging 'full' price for cash, but discounting payments made by check, credit card or through online billing.
Unfortunately, the way that this is presented is that I am charged for cash service (otherwise billing would look different).
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Canada = Hollywood North



karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
iraq

reply to Talis
What do you mean, no law? IF you have a DEBT, you are most CERTAINLY allowed to use cash to pay it. If someone provides you a service, and hands you a BILL (after they provide the service), then you have EVERY RIGHT to use cash to pay it. If the store won't accept anything bigger than a $20.00, and you only have a $50.00, then the transaction will not occur. But a BILL is a charge AFTER THE FACT. Thus, you have the RIGHT to settle the debt using cash.

Read the words on the dollar. "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private".. Note, it says ALL DEBTS, not 'some debts'.
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The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity!


Talis

join:2001-06-21
Houston, TX

Nobody is obligated to take a dollar bill in payment for anything. If I don't want to take it, there is no law that says I must - regardless of the words on the bill itself.



ReformCRTC
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join:2004-03-07
Canada

reply to karlmarx
In God We Trust. All others pay in barrels of Oil!


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