 gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
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Winterville, NC
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Re: Its not the fall thats fatal... said by Jerm:Its not the fall that fatal, it's the sudden stop at the end :P Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? I for one think it is in very poor taste.
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by gatorkram:said by Jerm:Its not the fall that fatal, it's the sudden stop at the end :P Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? I for one think it is in very poor taste. I thought it was funny. ::shrug:: |
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ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | reply to gatorkram
People die all the time. And they'll continue to die.
The joke was funny.
Stupid sudden stops. |
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Ulmo
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San Jose, CA Reviews:
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said by gatorkram:said by Jerm:Its not the fall that fatal, it's the sudden stop at the end :P Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? I for one think it is in very poor taste. Despite your protest, the fact that they could wear a properly set up parachute of some sort would indicate that the fact that the fall itself is not fatal is a very good key piece of information in figuring out how to potentially avoiding injury.
Since the fall itself is not fatal, a nice parachute with good practice would probably be a very good idea, and would often cause some manner of injury avoidance. |
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 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | reply to gatorkram
said by gatorkram:said by Jerm:Its not the fall that fatal, it's the sudden stop at the end :P Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? I for one think it is in very poor taste. What else is new in a society that lacks morals and has no respect for itself?
-Tzale
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Well if it were me personally, I'd suffice to say wrapping up or hitting the tower is a much better option than plummeting to your death. I mean depending on the force you hit the tower, it might be fatal or lead to severe injuries. Still, you might just have a few broken bones. It beats the alternative, almost certain death. If base jumpers got Parachutes that can open, Im sure something can be made for these guys. |
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | reply to ke4pym
said by ke4pym:People die all the time. And they'll continue to die. The joke was funny. Stupid sudden stops. Mr. Forrest,
Perhaps you should remember that next time a ham, or perhaps yourself dies climbing a tower.
-Tzale
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | reply to jc100
said by jc100:Well if it were me personally, I'd suffice to say wrapping up or hitting the tower is a much better option than plummeting to your death. I mean depending on the force you hit the tower, it might be fatal or lead to severe injuries. Still, you might just have a few broken bones. It beats the alternative, almost certain death. If base jumpers got Parachutes that can open, Im sure something can be made for these guys. What good is a parachute if it hits the tower when it opens? Their point is that you will STILL die, it will just be prolonged and more gruesome now that you hit on your way down.
-Tzale
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 birdfeedrPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:5 | reply to Tzale
said by Tzale:What else is new in a society that lacks morals and has no respect for itself? -Tzale I don't think it's lack of respect or morals. For most people, except the sociopaths, it's mostly whistling past the graveyard. |
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said by jc100:Well if it were me personally, I'd suffice to say wrapping up or hitting the tower is a much better option than plummeting to your death. I mean depending on the force you hit the tower, it might be fatal or lead to severe injuries. Still, you might just have a few broken bones. It beats the alternative, almost certain death. If base jumpers got Parachutes that can open, Im sure something can be made for these guys. Wrapping up will only help the coroner who has something with all of the pieces in it, you will die. In most cases the same is true of hitting the tower because it will prevent the chute from deploying properly.
Base jumpers typically jump from 1000' or higher, and are prepared before they fall. Tower climbers typically fall from less than 500' and are not prepared. There is no way you can get into position and deploy a chute when you are not prepared in under 5 seconds (approx time for a 500' fall).
Instead of wearing a cumbersome parachute rig, simply working safely and alertly will prevent you from needing it. I say that being one of "those guys", I'd never wear a chute, opting instead for 100% tieoff. |
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 removedPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
kudos:36 | reply to gatorkram
said by gatorkram:Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? Absolutely. I chuckled. |
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 jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | reply to Ulmo
the parachute would probably throw off their balance also. as well as be too close to the ground to deploy. But if i would do it i sure would have a parachute. But you wouldn't find me atop there. |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
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Winterville, NC
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said by removed:said by gatorkram:Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? Absolutely. I chuckled. I really doubt you did. The joke is almost as old as death itself. Oh wait, now did I make a joke?
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 SlyPremium
join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN | reply to Tzale
I'm sure he'll remember that the next time he dies in a climbing accident.  Lighten up. |
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 SeandhiSeeing From a New LevelPremium
join:2003-04-19
Humble, TX | reply to gatorkram
said by gatorkram:said by removed:said by gatorkram:Do you really think, in a news item, that talks about five people dieing, that there is room for jokes? Absolutely. I chuckled. I really doubt you did. The joke is almost as old as death itself. Oh wait, now did I make a joke? Yeah, but it wasn't funny... unlike the original poster's joke, which made me smile.
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Well I am not advocating a parachute overtake safety measures in any given way. Hell, these people should be tied to the tower like telephone poll workers do on their way up. However, I was merely saying this should be a back up if humanly possible. Let's face it, even with 100 percent tie off rate, there might be the few times your equipment fails. As for the fall time, your math is a bit wrong. Things fall at a rate of 27 feet per second per second. I suck at math but I'd suffice to say you got a bit longer but not much. Maybe 10 or 15 seconds. Math isn't my top subject so I'll skip trying to work out the formula =). You can do that one to get an actual number. Either way, you don't got long but being tangled up is still better than a sudden and certain death. At least you can have a proper funeral and a slim chance of survival. A 500 foot drop leaves little to none for both. |
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | reply to Sly
said by Sly:I'm sure he'll remember that the next time he dies in a climbing accident. Lighten up. It isn't something to joke about. Plenty of people die every year because of falling off towers... Amateur Radio operators are probably higher in the rate of fatalities due to not having proper training...
-Tzale
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SlyPremium
join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN Reviews:
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| said by Tzale:said by Sly:I'm sure he'll remember that the next time he dies in a climbing accident. Lighten up. It isn't something to joke about. Plenty of people die every year because of falling off towers... Amateur Radio operators are probably higher in the rate of fatalities due to not having proper training... -Tzale I think it's been 22.3 years since the first climbing accident... Falling off towers is funny now. 
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