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Combat Chuck
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reply to KrK

Re: Gas prices

said by KrK:

That's because they keep selling you on that this is a supply problem or an Oil Shortage. (IE "We need to Drill Arctic Refuge" for example...) It isn't.
You can keep believing that but the reality exists that both China and India have been using more and more oil daily and the supply effectively hasn't increased, and the USA's own use of gasoline has increased as well yet we haven't allowed a refinery refinery to be built in forever. It's likely to get worse in the near future as Mexico's supply reduces to a trickle.

We need to begin using our own resources if for no other reason than to make it so we can't be jerked around as easily (such as I suspect is happening with Mexico). I fear the privilege to whine about the caribou and the scenery ran out 10 years ago and now we're going to pay for it.
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KrK
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Yes, those are true statements... However, there is still not a shortage of oil at the moment. Did you know that we actually have been exporting fuel to Europe and Asia because it's more profitable? Did you know that Oil tankers full of oil often wait for MONTHS parked offshore to dock at the port and offload? (for timing reasons, not due to traffic etc)

Check this out:

January 2008, we exported:

364,000 barrels of crude oil.
4,095,000 barrels of gasoline
1,900,000 barrels of kerosene
10,398,000 barrels of Fuel Oil

Plus tons of byproducts, natural gas products, other petrochemicals, etc etc yadda yadda.

Why did we do that if we have such a shortage? Because we don't really, and they got a higher price from overseas buyers....

Almost all the oil refining and distribution in the USA is now in the hands of just a few, giant players. They can control the supply, and keep stocks tight for economic gain without actually running out of fuel which would cost them money and cause panic.

As for domestic oil production, it's surging. At $120 a barrel those old slow wells are now goldmines again. The boom is apparent. Lots of people with old oil leases or mineral rights are really getting a windfall atm.

As for the refineries, they aren't trying to build new ones... increasing the supply of refined fuels would drive the price down. In fact they actively shutdown old facilities or idle them, even now.... However, they are expanding and modernizing many facilities as well... the oil industry is experiencing a massive boom in construction and expansion at the moment, driven by the record profits.
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