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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | Cell has been landlines already The only thing keeping copper alive is the old folks. Those over 50 especially those over 65 are afraid of new technology. As time goes on and as their numbers decline copper will eventually die. As it is 1/4 of those under 30 have cell only. VoiP is certainly helping killing of copper, but it's not the main reason nor did it start the process. | |
| said by BF69:The only thing keeping copper alive is the old folks. Those over 50 especially those over 65 are afraid of new technology. As time goes on and as their numbers decline copper will eventually die. As it is 1/4 of those under 30 have cell only. VoiP is certainly helping killing of copper, but it's not the main reason nor did it start the process. One thing you need to consider is that cell works fine if you are single and the only one at the residence or married without kids. It also assumes that cell coverage is adequate at your house.
If you don't live alone, have kids, travel and others need phone service while your gone, have poor cell coverage, etc., then having cell only doesn't work.
I had VoIP in my previous house, but now I have a centrally monitored alarm in my new home...and VoIP doesn't work with it. I have a POTS line and it works with no problems, no E911 issues, no hardware to configure, no configuration at all. So VoIP is better.... why? | | |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by neil0311:said by BF69:The only thing keeping copper alive is the old folks. Those over 50 especially those over 65 are afraid of new technology. As time goes on and as their numbers decline copper will eventually die. As it is 1/4 of those under 30 have cell only. VoiP is certainly helping killing of copper, but it's not the main reason nor did it start the process. One thing you need to consider is that cell works fine if you are single and the only one at the residence or married without kids. It also assumes that cell coverage is adequate at your house. If you don't live alone, have kids, travel and others need phone service while your gone, have poor cell coverage, etc., then having cell only doesn't work. I had VoIP in my previous house, but now I have a centrally monitored alarm in my new home...and VoIP doesn't work with it. I have a POTS line and it works with no problems, no E911 issues, no hardware to configure, no configuration at all. So VoIP is better.... why? I never said it was better or worse. I was stating facts. how many MILLIONS of people have phone service through VoIP, that would be copper customers if VoIP didn't exist. How many MILLIONS have cell service only? If cell phones didn't exist these people would be copper customers. Now cell doesn't hurt the telecos as much since they also sell cell service. In fact at&t would probably rather a customers have cell only over copper only if that customer was going to only have one. I'm merely stating that copper is in trouble. It will still be here in 10 years though. | |
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LMAO- "old folks" those over 50!!! WTF, you think old is 50 and older?? I'm not afraid of VOIP-I have it as well as Cellphone service, DirectTV, Multiple iPods, A Windows Home Server and other technological "wonders". Don't be so sure that "old folks" are afraid of technology- that's another stereotype conjured up by the American businesses as they hype their crappy products- cell phone services that drop calls their even crappier phones along with all the other "gotta have it" products on you younger ones so that you can "feel good" about yourself. "Look at me I must be important, I've got my Bluetooth headset on" so I can be a complete ass by talking so loud that everyone within 50 ft can hear me. It 's not the old folks keeping copper alive, its lack of an alternative that offers the same or better QOS that POTS lines have supplied for a LONG time. copper is needed because there is still some regulation of the services and a requirement to deliver services and not the one-sided TOS agreements that these "paragons of virtue" foist on the public. | |
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said by BF69:The only thing keeping copper alive is the old folks. Those over 50 especially those over 65 are afraid of new technology. As time goes on and as their numbers decline copper will eventually die. As it is 1/4 of those under 30 have cell only. VoiP is certainly helping killing of copper, but it's not the main reason nor did it start the process. Not exactly.
Youngsters who grow up from the age of 7 with their own cellphone, who expect that all communication occurs in shorthand amongst static and dropped calls, are the least likely to buy a traditional landline... until the time they're on their own and realize that "triple play" plus a cellphone costs $200 / month. Then they discover LifeLine service, basic DSL, and prepaid cellular.
Business uses lots of copper. When you have a four lines in hunt or more, and you've been around the block (hmmm, is that "old folks" again?), you aren't going to turn over your phone service to some fly-by-night VOIP or cable company. Yes, its expensive to keep 4 lines on POTS - about $250 a month with LD. But that's nothing compared to what we pay in rent, utilities, worker's comp, payroll and taxes. | |
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