Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? in TekSavvy

Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? in TekSavvy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20397518 en Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:34:22 EDT Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:34:22 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20756349 dell112009 :

said by HiVolt

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Here is an idea for the people who have non-WRT54G linux capable routers, to temporarily use the MLPPP trick in Windows, in order to bypass the traffic shaping.

Set your modem in bridge mode & disable its DHCP server, and your router should be configured to use your TekSavvy PPPoE login, as usual.

What the loopback wiring allows you to do, is to establish a PPPoE connection using Windows XP, with the multilink checkbox, while your router is still connected in the mix and can still supply your other PCs or devices with internet. When you connect in Windows using it's built in PPPoE, it overrides whatever is supplied by your router, so you can download a torrent or use whatever application is affected by the DPI.

However, as you can see, it eats up two ports on a typical 4 port router. If you have another switch with more ethernet ports, you can easily uplink to your router and your problem is solved. Also, as this creates a direct IP connection to your machine, it bypasses the firewall of your router. So make sure to at least enable the Windows firewall, or use some other firewall software of your choice. Otherwise, you're left exposed to the net with a direct IP. One last thing. If you have a singlestatic IP, you will have to manually force a disconnect in your router's web interface, as an account with a single static IP will not be able to connect again unless its disconnected. You can then establish the PPPoE in Windows.

As an added bonus, you can now access your modem's line stats without unhooking your router. Just make sure the modem's IP address is different than the router's. If not, change one, for example the modem 192.168.1.254 (ST516), router 192.168.1.1

When HiVolt's setup is working, are the other computers connected to the router WITHOUT MLPP still protected by the routers firewall?

In other words, when a connection is made with MLPP, that PC is the only one on the network not protected and needs a firewall like ZoneAlarm?

Please confirm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20756349 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:56:19 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20650825 blacklotus : Hi all,

What worries me about HiVolt's fix (btw, very clever fix!) is connecting the modem to the LAN ports. This will, in effect, make the WWW part of the LAN.

Depending on the intelligence of the L3-switch/router it might allow administrative connections, to the router from the WAN that are normally reserved for LAN.

eg.

if Modem is 192.168.1.254
if L3 Switch/Router is 192.168.1.1
if user is 192.168.1.100

Modem connections might enter LAN from outside clients as 192.168.1.254, fooling the router into thinking that connections to the router's admin page are coming from within the LAN.

I have not tested this, but it does raise the question.

Password(s) on the router MUST be set and changed from defaults if we wish to avoid this problem, me thinks. I'm interested in hearing from people with equipment to test this.
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I use the static ip to connect to Teksavvy's newsgroup service.
Will MLPP work at all with a static IP? Just want to confirm before i do anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20622544 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:04:10 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20621386 drjp81 : I have a Belkin Router, logged in my Teksavvy account, with the Speedstream 4200 DSL Modem in bridge mode.

Are you guys telling me, that without any tampering of my current setup, I can use RASPPOE on a PC on the LAN (that currently obtains it's inet connection through the belkin) to initiate a MLPPP connection?

Cause with the built-in PPOE it doesn't.
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Static IP: Unlimited physical connections, ONE SINGLE login.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617703 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:59:52 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20613561 chronoss2008 : will this work then for a single account

AKA i have static ip and will check off the Multilink
only box here ( one is always offline so not worried)
if it does work , i may in future upgrade too one of these dual accounts to brag to the rogers guy downstairs and the students below me that are on wireless bell ( haha omg wireless with bell )
[I will test it with 4 types a modems/routers if need be]

Question 2:
Btw is there a way to make it so that i could use one box and let others into me and then in effect thet all could use the speed, or i can divy it out say.

on xp you can get progs called net limiters wiht passwords to prevent tampering. Also tried TSI dowstairs with vista wireless ability of a laptop was sweet. Basically when shaped i have been loaing out the shaped time to that person but they aint around as much and i would like to get closer to my cap , i am after all a value added lad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20613561 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:29:51 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20613254 Guspaz : As long as the login is not a static IP login, you can have more or less unlimited instances. I think my login had 6 sustained simultaneous logins across three locations during the main development of Tomato/MLPPP, and probably regularly has 3+ sessions when DSL_Ricer is working on it. He uses my account for testing, since he has a static IP himself.

If you have two TekSavvy logins, and they're both dynamic IP, you should ask TekSavvy to merge them into one and combine the bandwidth. There is no reason to have more than one dynamic IP login.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20613254 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:42:54 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20612938 nanook :

said by HiVolt

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I just created a regular windows PPPoE connection, following the wizard for PPPoE yadayada...

Then just go to properties as it the screenshot, enable the multilink and thats it.

Now that f@#$ing Bell is throttling me again this technique seems to work just fine. Thanks HiVolt.

Related question: If you have two TekSavvy logins, are there any issues or benefits between (a) using the same login for both PPPoE sessions or (b) using one login for the router PPPoE session and the other login for the XP PPPoE session?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20612938 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:03:36 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20611413 Kujo__ : Anyone know if this could be setup with any Linux based firewalls such as IPCOP, or BSD based ones such as Monowall? I'm currently using Monowall. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20611413 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:14:29 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20611283 DJMASACRE : well i am behind a DI-524 router,

so i guess setting up MLPPP on XP with rasppoe wouldnt work in this case ?

what about the Asus500g or asus 600 routers

I hear they are good for handing many open connections ... i dont really care about the HD option ..

but its either that or the WRT-G Linksys ..

what should I get if going to upgrade..

They are both under 100$ but i need something better than the DI-524 to support a dual-attached home with 5 people connected wireless on different floors.

any suggestions ? ( i want to rebuild my network in this home for my lanlord. ) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20611283 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:38:15 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20608832 taytong888 : Hi,

I followed your instructions exactly as described on this post, but still cannot connect. I have a single line DSL connection with a Gnet BB0050 modem and a DLink DI-624 router. The Gnet modem was pre-configured and I inherited it so I don't know how to verify if it's in bridge mode.

The error message (E691) is to the effect that my username and password are invalid.

I would appreciate your help.

PS: Win XP sp3.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20608832 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:25:35 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583524 anon : I'm getting rid of my VOIP and will be left with one modem and a switch. Can I do MLPPP on XP with the switch instead of a router?

Thanks,

Johnny Bones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583524 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:34:54 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20578325 blodrast : gotcha, thank you very much for the suggestions. I haven't tried that, will do.
Getting it working for one machine is good enough.

Thanks again for your help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20578325 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:46:48 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20576020 anon : I would try plugging your modem into port 2 of the router and plug a loop back cable into the wan port and port 1 of the router. you should then be able to see the modem no problem, but on that note, i thought D-link had this feature enabled without having to use a loop back cable?
either way, if the loop back cable works for you and the modem is in bridge mode (no username/password) in it then you should be able to just leave the router to dhcp not pppoe and then be able to use the raspppoe again.
although this is only going to work for your one machine that has the raspppoe on it, I don't think you can have every computer hooked up to the router doing this. that's why DSL_Ricer and Guspaz have added the support to the tomato firmware..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20576020 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:44:14 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575860 UT_CK : Anyone else here got it to work with W2K ?
CK
{:(B)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575860 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:40:16 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575767 blodrast : Well, even leaving my router issue aside... as I said before, if I connect directly to my modem (no router), raspppoe works fine, the internet connection works fine, but I'm still getting throttled. Tried several times, different hours. I'd be happy with any feedback.

thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575767 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:02:16 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575459 UT_CK : So as not to get OT. Post a new topic and it will draw more response. :)

CK
{:(B)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575459 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:32:13 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575201 blodrast : Yes, it's checked (it was checked by default).

edit: I've tried putting a rule in the router's firewall, to allow everything, didn't make any difference.
Also, I can't access the dsl modem anymore, either (since I've installed the router). Again, even with the "allow everything, everywhere" rule in the router's firewall, and being on the same subnet as the dsl modem, I still can't access it. I guess that explains why the raspppoe connections can't find any service offered...

Sorry, I guess I got kinda offtopic, although this IS about raspppoe and getting mlppp to work under windows...

So, anybody has any suggestions as to why I can't see my modem anymore ? The net connection works just fine (not raspppoe, the regular one).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575201 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:36:04 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575134 UT_CK : Yup .. that's what I've been doing from the onset.

Purty easy... :)

CK
{:(B)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575134 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:23:34 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575119 UT_CK : Not sure about W2K or what you tired. Under WinXp .. when creating your dialup connection .. make sure to enable the multilink checkbox (make sure it has a check in it).

CK
{:(B)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20575119 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:19:48 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20574378 blodrast : Hi,

I've gone through pretty much all the necessary steps I've seen in this topic, but there's no difference - still throttled.

Running win2k (I know, I know), installed raspppoe no problems, tested the connection, works fine. Have a ST516 dsl modem, (re)configured it to work in bridge mode (was in router mode). Works fine, I have net connection - _through_ the pppoe connection created with raspppoe -, but there is no difference in download/upload speeds - around 50-60 k/s, just like it was before.

I'm not using a router, for the time being. The modem still has DHCP enabled, if that makes any difference.

I'm not sure what else to check... And I'm sure I must be missing something.

Thank you.

edit: Well, I guess it's kind of a non-issue anymore... I've installed my router (DI-524), and the regular connection works fine, but the raspppoe connections can't connect to anything (can't find modem); when I use raspppoe to query available services, it says there are "no service offers received". Nothing else changed in the system, besides adding the router between the computer and the modem...
Is there anything I can enable in the router's firewall (I imagine this is where the problem is, since that's the only thing that's changed) ?
I'd welcome any suggestions.

thank you again]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20574378 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:41:31 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20568596 Arbalister :

said by TilhasBB

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This option also exists in Vista.
Under Properties >Options>PPP Settings

Oh cool...check it out...

I'm set up using a 4 port NetVito 6240 wireless modem/router. My main comp plugs straight into it. I've got the modem set in routed mode, it does all the logging in for me. Vista is the OS.

I went into Network and Sharing Center and "Setup a Connection" and created a new Broadband DSL connection (in addition to the LAN connection that was already there, that connects me to the modem and internet) and then went to the above in the properties of the Broadband Connection ... turned it on ... and now, no throttle. (I was, before the change, and if I turn it off, I am again.) Pretty weird - the modem never droppped connection, etc. I gave the Broadband Connection my username/password and it appeared to log in (to what I have no clue - suppose it has to be TSI ...)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20568596 Sat, 31 May 2008 11:57:54 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20547147 gdogg : Well I finally got it working, and scaling a bit better. But I guess I could expect better from tomoato?

Biggest problem I have, is getting both lines connected at one. Takes a while and a few restarts.

So far I find MTU of 1432 to be working very well. Will try to get higher, but eventually it lowers speeds.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20547147 Tue, 27 May 2008 16:52:55 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20542732 gdogg : I can't seem to get both modems to go, its either 1 or the other.

Have it setup as said with RASPPPOE

Anyone have an idea why it just wont' work?

edit, did anyone in this thread actually get MLPPP working through RASPPPOE , or was it tomoato users posting in here?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20542732 Mon, 26 May 2008 18:59:08 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20532992 DjEclipse :

said by HiVolt

When I set up the router like in the picture I had internet so I made the 2nd connection. It worked, I was able to have 2 connections. There was a high pitch sound coming from either the computer or modem though. As soon as I clicked disconnect on the PPPOE connection the high pitch sound went away.

I tried the set up again and it doesn't work any more. As soon as I plug in the loup back from port 1 to WAN the high pitch sound is back.

Any ideas? How do you check if your router is in Loup mode and that the DCHP server is disabled? I tried through the modem set up but the only options it gave me is "auto connect on disconnect". It's a speadstream 4200.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20532992 Sat, 24 May 2008 09:30:43 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20496793 Billy69 : I have a 2Wire 2700HG-B modem (bridge mode) connected to a D-link DGL-4300 router.

I setup the "workaround" PPPoE connection on the PC used for Bittorrent (2 NICs - 1 connected to D-Link / other disabled) and configured the modem/router according to HiVolt's "loopback" config. D/l speed on uTorrent at 11pm was above 30 Kbps but never exceeded 100KB/s. I let it run for 20 min.

After reverting the network back to its original setup, I enabled the 2nd NIC on the BT PC and connected it to a 2nd port on the modem (1st used by D-Link). Under this config, speeds in uTorrent at 11:40pm increased to 175KB/s-230KB/s.
The speed increased to 250KB/s-260KB/s after 2am.

It's 2:40am now. w/ PPPoE disconnected, and the connection back under control of the D-Link, the speed for the same torrents is 360KB/s-378KB/s)

I'm not a networking expert. Are there any changes I can make to the 2Wire modem, PPPoE connection, XP or uTorrent to increase the speed?

I'm on a 6Mbps/800Kbps profile and come pretty close to reaching those speeds (620KB/s / 80KB/s)

The global download/upload rate in uTorrent 1.8 beta 9272 is set to 455KB/s / 40KB/s, both easily reached when the connection isn't throttled. Protocol encryption is enabled and the incoming legacy connections box is checked.

Port is forwarded properly through the D-Link and windows firewall (windows firewall only enabled for PPPoE connection)

I'm using XP SP3 and i installed the crack (LvlLord.de) to increase the TCP/IP half-open connections from 10 to 50.

Thanks!

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20496793 Sat, 17 May 2008 03:17:18 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20491081 gamer515 : I currently have ST516 in bridge mode and using WRT54G. I created the WinXP PPPoE connection but when I tried to connect it doesn't work. Do I have to change the bridge mode or do any rewiring?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20491081 Fri, 16 May 2008 01:43:29 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489726 Candoo3 : K ... til tonite, never used BT, so installed uT for the hell of it. Been bouncing between 80-200kB, not 30 as everyone else seems to get. Once my teen heads for the pillows and off the net, see if it improves things. I was a little surprised, connected to my next door neighbours Cogeco (with permission) and couldn't get over 40.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489726 Thu, 15 May 2008 20:44:13 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489685 neko :

said by Candoo3

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Neko, and you are using a single dsl line?
I've been following the thread as well and been thinking of giving it a go, just trying to get it straight in my mind. Seems straight forward.

Yes. 1 line: 1 DSL modem: 1 NIC
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I've been following the thread as well and been thinking of giving it a go, just trying to get it straight in my mind. Seems straight forward.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489680 Thu, 15 May 2008 20:35:01 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489644 neko : Been reading this thread & I thought I'd give it a try.

I have a 2wire 2700HG-B. So I setup a PPoE connection, as Hivolt said, then simply rebooted my router. No bridge mode, no wiring changes, no nothing.

Then, I booted up XP, started the PPoE connection, then started my torrent & got full speeds.

Shut down the torrent, disconnected the PPoE, then restarted torrent again. Back to 30KBs. Stopped torrent, opened PPoE again, started torrent & full speeds again.

Sweet. Thanks, Hivolt :)

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Started multi Link - Full Speed
Stopped Multi Link - Poor Speeds
Restarted Multi Link - Full Speed Again

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489644 Thu, 15 May 2008 20:27:19 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489285 DSL_Ricer :

said by Johnny Bones :

I have a Motorola VT2142 from Vonage. I may be wrong, as well, but I recently had a ground fault on Bell's network that required Maintenance. Afterwards I couldn't connect to Teksavvy and through my troubleshooting with Tech support I had to reset my modem then put it into bridge mode to be able to connect through my VOIP box. This worked. Now I am left woundering how I can make MLPPP work to avoid some unpleasantness that I am experiencing.

Thanks dude,

Johnny Bones.

You are indeed right. I assume the VOIP box is also connected to a switch.
- Connect the modem to that switch (instead of the voip box).
- Connect both sides of the VOIP box to that switch.
- Connect your computers to the switch.

You should at this point have internet access on all systems.

Retry the MLPPP configuration.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489285 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:11:20 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489244 anon : I have a Motorola VT2142 from Vonage. I may be wrong, as well, but I recently had a ground fault on Bell's network that required Maintenance. Afterwards I couldn't connect to Teksavvy and through my troubleshooting with Tech support I had to reset my modem then put it into bridge mode to be able to connect through my VOIP box. This worked. Now I am left woundering how I can make MLPPP work to avoid some unpleasantness that I am experiencing.

Thanks dude,

Johnny Bones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489244 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:00:56 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489181 DSL_Ricer :

said by Johnny Bones :

I'm pretty sure my modem is in bridge mode to allow for my VOIP box to connect to Teksavvy for me. Can this be done without a router?

I could be incorrect but I don't believe this is the case, what voip box do you have? Does it have more than 1 Ethernet jack in it? 3 or more?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489181 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:51:23 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489158 anon : I'm pretty sure my modem is in bridge mode to allow for my VOIP box to connect to Teksavvy for me. Can this be done without a router?

Thanks,

johnny Bones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489158 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:44:47 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489098 anon : I believe that my modem is in bridge mode in order for the voip hardware to sign me into Teksavvy. Are you saying this can only be done through a router? If so I guess I'll have to buy one.

Thanks for any info.

Johnny Bones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489098 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:38:57 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489052 DSL_Ricer :

said by Johnny Bones :

How would I do this with a modem connected to a voip box. When I try to create a connection and query available services using raspppoe it comes back with a "no service offers received" error even though I'm connected.

If your modem is doing PPPoE then you can't do it. Your modem and router must be two separate units. Or, if you have no router, your modem must be in bridge mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489052 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:26 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489015 anon : How would I do this with a modem connected to a voip box. When I try to create a connection and query available services using raspppoe it comes back with a "no service offers received" error even though I'm connected.

Thanks,

FunkyBeats.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489015 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:22:00 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20488073 Guspaz : If you're doing it with WinXP, the router is irrelevant.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20488073 Thu, 15 May 2008 15:40:37 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487867 overrryde : dsl_ricer, i was actually refering to the method proposed by HiVolt.

It seem you are refering to using mlpp using tomato?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487867 Thu, 15 May 2008 15:04:15 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487832 DSL_Ricer :

said by overrryde

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Has anyone done this using another router than the WRT?

I want to know success or failure of this! curious cause im using a DLink DL-524.

Go to:
»wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware···rect=toh

Look for your model. If under Ram it says less than 16 and under flash it says less then 2, the answer is unfortunately: never.

Otherwise, look under the support column. If you get OpenWRT installed on the box, it's feasible for you to do mlppp, just not with Tomato.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487832 Thu, 15 May 2008 14:54:42 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487738 overrryde : Has anyone done this using another router than the WRT?

I want to know success or failure of this! curious cause im using a DLink DL-524.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487738 Thu, 15 May 2008 14:38:10 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487453 anon :

said by DSL_Ricer

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You can have more than one PPPoE connection over a single DSL line.

Ok, I understand now.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487453 Thu, 15 May 2008 13:50:11 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487383 DSL_Ricer :

said by Anonym :

Sorry to be so thick here.

1) Do I leave the DSL modem in bridged mode?

Yes

said by Anonym :

2) Does my router still manage PPPoE connections?

For those that aren't connecting using MLPPP, yes

said by Anonym :

3) Is MLPP running inside a PPPoE connection?

Yes.

You can have more than one PPPoE connection over a single DSL line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487383 Thu, 15 May 2008 13:38:52 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487258 anon :

said by DSL_Ricer

said by Anonym :

I assume that they all individually have to be set up for MLPPP - I can't mix?

You can mix

Sorry to be so thick here.

1) Do I leave the DSL modem in bridged mode?

2) Does my router still manage PPPoE connections?

3) Is MLPP running inside a PPPoE connection?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20487258 Thu, 15 May 2008 13:15:34 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486680 DSL_Ricer :

said by Anonym :

I assume that they all individually have to be set up for MLPPP - I can't mix?

You can mix]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486680 Thu, 15 May 2008 11:23:31 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486502 anon :

said by DSL_Ricer

said by Anonym :

I have a Speedtouch 510 and a D-Link DI 604.

Can you tell me what I have to do?

- Plug your DSL modem into the LAN section of the D-Link.
- Plug an Ethernet cable from the WAN port of the D-Link to the switch section.
- Connect your computers with the two remaining ports on the LAN side.

At this point, normally, everything should work as before. However the internal computers should also be able to see the Speedtouch.

- Setup your windows box as explained in the WinXP MLPPP discussion thread. You can use the same login as for the Dlink, as long as you DO NOT have a static IP address.

Thanks for this.

More questions:

I have multiple real and virtual computers (XP, W2K and Ubuntu) and devices (Nokia N800, OLPC XO). Once I do this I assume that they all individually have to be set up for MLPPP - I can't mix? If so, then I think that I will go the WRT54G route. If not, then:

What mode should my modem be in? Right now I think it is in bridge mode with the router doing the PPPoE login.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486502 Thu, 15 May 2008 10:48:21 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485416 Baldclimber :

said by Baldclimber

:

Upload speeds however never went over 30kpbs, mostly around 10kps.

I did further testing this evening. Once again upload speeds on one or more torrents never exceeded 30k/s. At 1 am the total jumped to the full uplink. Download speeds have not been affected - fast all day. Is Bell managing to throttle one direction only on this single modem Windows MLPP setup?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485416 Thu, 15 May 2008 03:30:05 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485382 DSL_Ricer :

said by Anonym :

I have a Speedtouch 510 and a D-Link DI 604.

Can you tell me what I have to do?

said by HiVolt

:

Maybe you have a rotten tomato :D lmao

HiVolt, you so punny.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484923 Thu, 15 May 2008 00:01:36 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484321 HiVolt : Maybe you have a rotten tomato :D lmao
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It could be the TOMATO... but I'd put money on the Gnet before that..

Gonna find somewhere to get a cheap speedstream 5360 to match the one i already have.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484314 Wed, 14 May 2008 22:13:59 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483964 HiVolt :

said by codecx

:

Dual modems working! ;)

Very nice. Congrats!
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said by DSL_Ricer

said by Anonym :

So, is there any way that only one of multiple machines on a LAN can do this while the rest all connect normally?

Define normally: If you have a router and dsl modem as 2 separate units, then yes. Otherwise no.

I have a Speedtouch 510 and a D-Link DI 604.

Can you tell me what I have to do?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483919 Wed, 14 May 2008 21:11:12 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483218 Scoop : Nice! That's what I want. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483218 Wed, 14 May 2008 18:59:42 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483209 codecx : Dual modems working! ;)

Couple speed tests:

Here's an example of download speed (Downloading the Windows XP SP3 network redistributable)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483209 Wed, 14 May 2008 18:56:48 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482704 DSL_Ricer :

said by Anonym :

So, is there any way that only one of multiple machines on a LAN can do this while the rest all connect normally?

Define normally: If you have a router and dsl modem as 2 separate units, then yes. Otherwise no.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482704 Wed, 14 May 2008 17:19:34 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482663 anon : So, is there any way that only one of multiple machines on a LAN can do this while the rest all connect normally?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482663 Wed, 14 May 2008 17:12:28 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478786 codecx : Ok, using the RASPPPOE method,

have the first modem hooked into a network card, on my 2k3 box
Have my 2k3 box hooked up to the first LAN port on my switch
Have my 2nd modem hooked up to the 2nd LAN port on my switch

I also have Internet Connection Sharing enabled. I know its not a step but for my network, its how I am getting the internet out to everyone else on the switch.

I've followed Vinch's instructions to the letter, it does prompt me, saying the 2nd line failed. However, when I try to get it to redial, it just gives error 633, device is in use.

So.. whats next?
::edit::
Tomato firmware that supports dual modems, is being released today.. Gonna try that out tonite.

Failing that, I've purchased another NIC and I'll try to install it on my server to get the modem hooking up to both interfaces... Maybe my server just doesn't like the 2nd modem being on the switch..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478786 Tue, 13 May 2008 23:19:03 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477914 bexol : It works, thanks guys. Pure genius!

btw web browsing is a hell of a lot more responsive now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477914 Tue, 13 May 2008 20:44:37 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477617 Baldclimber :

said by HiVolt

said by morisato

:

Hivolt care to explain Your Setup? and what u did? Like does it use Mlpp with one Link if u click that check or?

Throttling is active in my area.
Based on the information posted here I set up a PPPoE connection in Vista with "negotiate multi-link for single-link connections" checked in PPP options. I didn't change my existing set-up of the computer connected directly to the 2Wire router (NOT in bridge mode). I was downloading a very active torrent at 500kbps just now and it's 8 pm here. Upload speeds however never went over 30kpbs, mostly around 10kps. Is it really that simple to defeat Bell?

edited to add:

I should add that the seeds far outnumbered the peers on the torrent. Here's a speed test I just ran with the torrent being seeded from here at ~15kbps.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477617 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:54:14 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476356 daboom : Just remember tek has to fork out 20 just to bell for the dsl side of things. Not sure what more then can do without taking a lost.
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Well.. you never know. If it turns into a selling point and we end up failing at getting bell to de-throttle.... A solution like that might be born out of necessity.

Ever since taking networking fundamentals in college, back in 2001.. I dreamed of bonding two internet connections together..

I've made my former self, proud.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476254 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:28:54 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476239 HiVolt :

said by codecx

:

Truly!
I think you can get that service.. like a 2ndary teksavvy account to use as a backup to your sympatico or something.. ?

Yes, but that's only $10 login. You have to have DSL with another provider for your DSL line to be active.

What I'm talking about is just basically secondary line for MLPPP, with sync, but no login, email, webspace, etc. Because for MLPPP you use the login from your main account.
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I think you can get that service.. like a 2ndary teksavvy login to use as a backup to your sympatico or something.. ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476216 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:20:08 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476194 HiVolt : Yeah, I think if you switch to two Premiums, you might have to notify TekSavvy in order for them to have a note on your account that 1 login will be used and should have a cap of 400GB. Im not sure what happens to the other login, whether you just don't use it in good faith, or do they disable it?

What would be cool, if TekSavvy could provide a second line for the purpose of MLPPP, that has no login or any other features of a normal $30 account, for a lesser price. It would make MLPPP more attractive.
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I get 4300/625 with my speedstream (which is as equally old)
so.. thats pretty kick ass, considering i am on a 5mb profile.

If I can get a clean 2x speed out of that, I consider this an epic success.... then, I just switch over to a Premium account with both accounts, (I'm never going to download 400gb a month.......heh)

Just to save money and capitolize on super ping times!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476156 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:10:09 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476134 HiVolt :

said by codecx

:

My next hurdle is figuring out whether or not my old Gnet BB0050 is up to snuff with today's speeds. I've not read anything to tell me otherwise, but I've got an evening of speed testing each modem individually and deciding whether or not to get a newer modem.

If your line is clean, then in bridge mode there should be no noticeable difference. I tried an ancient Alcatel STH on a clean line at 8mbps sync, and it worked flawlessly identical in speeds to newer ADSL2+ capable modems.

Thats the comparison did I while ago with the modems I had available to me that could display line stats. They all worked fine, however some are noticeably better than others in terms of line stats.
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said by HiVolt

LOL... Cool. Hope it all works, and your second line isnt synced up at 1meg. :D

Post the result!

LOL! The 1 meg sync was suppose to be a Bell surprise, why'd you go and ruin it? :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476114 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:03:14 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476094 HiVolt :

said by codecx

:

OMFG!! After a joint effort of both Teksavvy and myself calling Bell.. a tech came out today!!!

Not only did he repair my first dryloop, he also connected my 2nd dryloop AND installed a separate jack alongside of my existing jack, for a 2nd modem.

I cannot WAIT to hook all this awesomeness up tonite!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LOL... Cool. Hope it all works, and your second line isnt synced up at 1meg. :D

Post the result!
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said by HiVolt

said by codecx

:

I'm still waiting to have my 2nd line installed...

Actually.. no. Bell did come today. They decided to disconnect my primary line instead... I'm going home to no internet ;).. Bastards..

LOL, classic Bell!

OMFG!! After a joint effort of both Teksavvy and myself calling Bell.. a tech came out today!!!

Not only did he repair my first dryloop, he also connected my 2nd dryloop AND installed a separate jack alongside of my existing jack, for a 2nd modem.

I cannot WAIT to hook all this awesomeness up tonite!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20475975 Tue, 13 May 2008 14:35:45 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20475458 daboom : Nor can I anymore I know the earlier Firmwares had it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20475458 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:02:03 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20474845 eots : It must be enabled by default because I can't even find it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20474845 Tue, 13 May 2008 11:10:17 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20474780 HiVolt :

said by daboom

:

Hivolt: Yes actually on the Dlink 655 their is an option to forward lan pppoe requests out. A nice feature great for testing stuff without reconfiguring everything. I have one myself but as I have said it's just a big ol expensive Gbps switch and wireless N point now. As I am on day 40 of my pppoe session :) using pfsense :) With the dlink I was lucky to get past 13 days.

Ah, that is a pretty cool feature. I never encountered any router that would do that, so thats why i proposed the workaround with the WAN loopback.
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said by morisato

:

Howdy mersault i am sure you will read this ;0 on your wiki you suggested i could use mlpp with one dsl line i would like this as I know bells unable to decipher mlpp packets for the throttle so any info u might have on How i would go about doing it via xp would rock ;) heh otherwise the hunt is on

MLPPP bypassing the throttling is strictly something that the TekSavvy customer base figured out for ourselves; it's really a side-effect of the fact that TekSavvy allows/endorses multilink setups with 2+ DSL lines. Which is something that is about to get a whole lot easier :)

There are advantages and disadvantages to each approach. The advantage of SSH is that it encrypts your data, and isn't likely to ever be throttled. The disadvantage is that you're using a SOCKS proxy on top of that, which only works with certain applications (and sockscap isn't ideal), plus has a lot more overhead than MLPPP (CPU and network overhead).

MLPPP has the advantage of working with everything seamlessly, and having very little overhead, but single-link MLPPP is something that Bell can theoretically throttle (although they don't currently).

That said, the MLPPP build of Tomato serves two purposes; one is circumventing the throttling on a single DSL line, but the more interesting is that it makes it trivial to bond two DSL lines with MLPPP in general.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473582 Tue, 13 May 2008 01:42:11 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472924 eots : Sympatico isn't going to support a protocol that defeats their own throttling, so just change ISP's. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472924 Mon, 12 May 2008 22:41:32 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472876 anon : Interesting...

Teksavvy allow/use MLPPP login to bypass throttle

»MLPPP on WRT54G/Tomato, progress report (with download)

Acanac use SSH stunnel to bypass throttle

»community.acanac.com/acanac/view···p?t=5903

Is there anything for Bell Sympatico... Deadpool, please either throttle these guys or support MLPPP on Bell Sympatico so we can bypass your throttle device, otherwise we have to quit Bell and go to these ISPs lol...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472876 Mon, 12 May 2008 22:31:48 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472522 HiVolt :

said by Guspaz_Anon :

In the WRT54G, all ports are on a single five-port switch, and the WAN port is isolated from the other four via VLANs.

Yeah I saw you mention that in the other thread, but does it allow to establish pppoe thru it? or access the modem's web interface?
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said by eots

:

I have my modem connected to the router WAN port and I can still make the 2nd PPPoE connection through WinXP with Multi-link enabled and it works perfectly without the loopback.

Really? That's neat. I guess your router somehow allows the LAN ports to connect to the modem. What brand router?
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Well, thanks for the warning.

So maybe I'll be on the lookout for the wrt54g...

/edit: written while hivolt was posting, not a comment on his post.
Thanks hivolt., I may try that later.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472390 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:58:45 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472386 HiVolt : Here is an idea for the people who have non-WRT54G linux capable routers, to temporarily use the MLPPP trick in Windows, in order to bypass the traffic shaping.

Set your modem in bridge mode & disable its DHCP server, and your router should be configured to use your TekSavvy PPPoE login, as usual.

What the loopback wiring allows you to do, is to establish a PPPoE connection using Windows XP, with the multilink checkbox, while your router is still connected in the mix and can still supply your other PCs or devices with internet. When you connect in Windows using it's built in PPPoE, it overrides whatever is supplied by your router, so you can download a torrent or use whatever application is affected by the DPI.

However, as you can see, it eats up two ports on a typical 4 port router. If you have another switch with more ethernet ports, you can easily uplink to your router and your problem is solved. Also, as this creates a direct IP connection to your machine, it bypasses the firewall of your router. So make sure to at least enable the Windows firewall, or use some other firewall software of your choice. Otherwise, you're left exposed to the net with a direct IP. One last thing. If you have a singlestatic IP, you will have to manually force a disconnect in your router's web interface, as an account with a single static IP will not be able to connect again unless its disconnected. You can then establish the PPPoE in Windows.

As an added bonus, you can now access your modem's line stats without unhooking your router. Just make sure the modem's IP address is different than the router's. If not, change one, for example the modem 192.168.1.254 (ST516), router 192.168.1.1
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472386 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:57:50 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472331 Guspaz : As soon as you establish the PPPoE link on your Windows box, you're bypassing any external firewall; your st516's firewall isn't doing anything, and won't protect you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472331 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:47:54 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472320 bexol : Am I right in saying that this can't work via a wireless connection? My setup is :

PC -> wireless N to Dlink router -> 2wire in bridged mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472320 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:45:29 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472311 nuljet : Enabled the st516 firewall. And always had comodo anyways (which does now register more gunk than usual ;) ).
But I'm more used to the dlink firewall.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472311 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:44:16 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472270 Guspaz : Keep in mind that if you create your PPPoE session on your Windows box, that box is effectively directly connected to the internet. Without a NAT router, the only thing standing between you and the world is the Windows firewall.

DO NOT do this unless you are either running WinXP SP2 or newer with built-in firewall enabled, or have personal firewall software.

You may want to install personal firewall software even if you're using SP2 or later.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472270 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:37:30 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472239 nuljet :

said by HiVolt

:

BTW, your modem has to be either on bridge mode or simultaneous routed/bridged pppoe.

Well, the trick works allright, for now at least (cross fingers) (8:30 pm right now, ubuntu test image download flying in fast).

I did have to unconnect from my router (dlink) and go on bridged mode for the modem (ST516).
Routed with the DLink, can't seem to be able to connect, even without checking that multi-link option. (I usually connect through the modem's http interface, but I followed usual steps with pppoe wizard).

What is this "simultaneous routed/bridged pppoe"? Didn't see that as an option in the ST516 wizard , I'd like to get back with the router.

/edit: st516 firmware is 6.2.16.3]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20472239 Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:37 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471715 HiVolt :

said by codecx

:

I'm still waiting to have my 2nd line installed...

Actually.. no. Bell did come today. They decided to disconnect my primary line instead... I'm going home to no internet ;).. Bastards..

LOL, classic Bell!
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said by anon485382 :

I got it fixed up.. Thanks Hivolt..

do a speed test guys! We wanna see!!!!!

»speedtest.teksavvy.com

I'm still waiting to have my 2nd line installed...

Actually.. no. Bell did come today. They decided to disconnect my primary line instead... I'm going home to no internet ;).. Bastards..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470573 Mon, 12 May 2008 15:34:29 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20461278 TilhasBB : This option also exists in Vista.
Under Properties >Options>PPP Settings]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20461278 Sat, 10 May 2008 12:06:49 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20461258 anon : I got it fixed up.. Thanks Hivolt..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20461258 Sat, 10 May 2008 12:03:52 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460928 HiVolt : You have to change NetMeter to only follow one interface, not All. When you create a PPPoE session, that is one interface, then it also measures the ethernet interface it travels on also.
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Altho, I do have to do something with netmeter tho, It seems to think i'm doing twice the speed.
Altho, I haven't had a torrent run at these speeds for quite some time. throttling or no throttling..

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460254 Sat, 10 May 2008 02:39:06 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460220 HiVolt :

said by anon485382 :

Thnx Hivolt, I only had that checked in one of the two dial-up connections. Also I had to allow it to re-dial 5 or 6 times but it finally worked.

Well it's past throttling time now, so you might want to verify tomorrow after 4:30pm hehe... :)
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said by morisato

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and thats with One Line? one Modem? were talking about using MLPP to confuse bell here. or do u have 2 connections?

One dsl line, one modem, one NIC. My motherboard has 2 nics but one is disabled with nothing connected to it.

BTW, your modem has to be either on bridge mode or simultaneous routed/bridged pppoe.
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said by morisato

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Hivolt care to explain Your Setup? and what u did? Like does it use Mlpp with one Link if u click that check or?

I just created a regular windows PPPoE connection, following the wizard for PPPoE yadayada...

Then just go to properties as it the screenshot, enable the multilink and thats it.

That's all it required here.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460144 Sat, 10 May 2008 01:39:47 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460035 anon :

said by Vinch

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Well, the good news is that with RASPPPoE, you can have it create multiple modems on the same NIC. So you could effectively follow my instructions and do bonding with a single physical line. That option is in the pppoe protocol on your network adapter. Then you go back to the dialup connection and check off the additional "lines" you added. Should work fine with slightly more overhead... but if it confuses bell's throttling then why not...

I am trying to do this with a single DSL line and it tells me that a computer with my computer name is all ready on the network and tries to send me to control panel and suggests i change my computer name. So I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong but for whatever reason this isn't working with a single NIC and single DSL connection.
Has anyone else been able to get this to work in a single nic/dsl scenario?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460035 Sat, 10 May 2008 00:47:44 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20410485 codecx :

said by JayMan

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I think I may try mlppp on win2k3 again tonight. See if I can make that work. With or without raspppoe.

My 2nd line gets installed tomorrow!! I officially start my 2k3 testing :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20410485 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:01:10 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403283 Vinch : Well, the good news is that with RASPPPoE, you can have it create multiple modems on the same NIC. So you could effectively follow my instructions and do bonding with a single physical line. That option is in the pppoe protocol on your network adapter. Then you go back to the dialup connection and check off the additional "lines" you added. Should work fine with slightly more overhead... but if it confuses bell's throttling then why not... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403283 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:21:31 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403193 JayMan : I think I may try mlppp on win2k3 again tonight. See if I can make that work. With or without raspppoe.
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»www.freeourbandwidth.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403193 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:52:23 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20402706 morisato : Um Vinch I wanted to use 1 modem MLPP sure i won;t get extra speed but i was hoping the packets would confuddle bell further ;) what u suggested is confusing ;) i assume MLpp standard under xp?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20402706 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:17:05 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400993 grayfox : I just tested it quickly, It works at least for the download. No change on my upload tho.

edit: Forgot the screenshot.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400993 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:45:34 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400692 chronoss2008 : two ways

use linux as host OS and use vmware for your stuff

use linux as a host OS and use another port on router for XP to be on network
aka it uses whatever net is availble
the linux box hten would act like a dchp server and dish out a internal ip for the xp box

im sure someone will clean the idea up
and you can get a cheap 500MHZ box as the linux box and setup MLPPP as the other thread said then just dchp out the internal to the xp box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400692 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:48:48 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400373 codecx : ^ Bookmarking this. Awesome steps to try for systems without a server.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400373 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:58:12 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398864 Vinch : Very Simple:

Get RASPPPoE [ »www.raspppoe.com/ ]
Install it, following their instructions.
When you have the first connection created, test it. Make sure you save the password. Once you confirmed that works, go in the properties and the options tab of the connection. (Disconnect before doing this)

1- Take note of the number being dialed by the connection.
2- Add a checkbox on the 2nd network card you have hooked up to your 2nd line.
3- Check the box that makes all modems dial the same number and enter the number you wrote down in step 1.
4- Change the dial strategy to always dial all devices.

Take off checkmark to prompt username & password.

Set retry dialing to a high number ex. 9999999.
Set retry interval to 3 seconds.

Click ok and test your connection.

It will probably connect but give you a line bundling error. Simply click on accept. Connection icon on lower right in taskbar and open it. Click on the details tab.
You should see on the bottom, a drop down with all your dsl lines and a button that changes between suspend and resume. Find which line failed to bundle and click on resume. If you set the settings the way I set them, it will essentially redial the failed line indefinitely until it connects. At which point you should be in business.

Forgot to add, if you experience bad troughput when doing mlppp on windows, you will probably want to change the mtu of the raspppoe protocol on each of your network adapters to something like 1452. I am still investigating the need for such a low value. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398864 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:10:17 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398714 Radar73 : I've heard you can do this with RASPPPoE as opposed to the WinXP PPPoE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398714 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:29:12 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397696 JayMan : doesn't work with pppoe]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397696 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:14:51 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397688 anon : »help.expedient.com/dialup/multil···xp.shtml
This?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397688 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:11:02 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397611 JayMan : XP won't let you startup PPPoE twice. I tried this already.
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»www.freeourbandwidth.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397611 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:46:14 EDT Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397549 Mersault : No idea how to do it with XP, sorry. I know with BSD or Linux it should just be a matter of setting up regular MLPPP but pointing both links at the same ethernet interface, thus creating two PPPoE sessions through the same modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397549 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:22:03 EDT Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397518 morisato : Howdy mersault i am sure you will read this ;0 on your wiki you suggested i could use mlpp with one dsl line i would like this as I know bells unable to decipher mlpp packets for the throttle so any info u might have on How i would go about doing it via xp would rock ;) heh otherwise the hunt is on]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397518 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:11:17 EDT