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·AT&T U-Verse
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| U-verse Internet Only - what's the "official" position? Been doing a lot of reading on this and getting a lot of confusing info. My situation is that I can't get DSL due to distance from CO, but U-verse is now here - I'm very happy with my TV service (D*) but could be persuaded to switch internet from Time Warner if the price was right. Some posts suggest TV must be taken with internet, others suggest that non-DSL areas can get internet only. Any AT&T folks able to clarify? |
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 mjwise join:2007-05-09 Ann Arbor, MI | I am not an official AT&T person, but my home is not able to get traditional DSL (well, 768k, maybe), and the person who took my order over the phone was willing to put in an internet-only order, but couldn't waive the installation fee ($95). I think if you explain to the sales rep that you can't order traditional DSL, they'll be willing to help you. |
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 | reply to Mad Mac If they won't give you an internet only order with free install, just order the TV service too, then cancel the TV service within 30 days (you get a free month) and it'll cost you nothing. This is exactly what I did. |
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 ILpt4UPremium join:2006-11-12 Lisle, IL kudos:4 Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
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| reply to Mad Mac said by Mad Mac:Been doing a lot of reading on this and getting a lot of confusing info. My situation is that I can't get DSL due to distance from CO, but U-verse is now here - I'm very happy with my TV service (D*) but could be persuaded to switch internet from Time Warner if the price was right. Some posts suggest TV must be taken with internet, others suggest that non-DSL areas can get internet only. Any AT&T folks able to clarify? Officially, if you are in an ADSL Red Zone (unable to get regular AT&T DSL), you qualify for U-Verse Internet only (with an installation charge).
Now, if I were you, I would order TV with just 1 Set Top Box and/or DVR and with whatever internet package you want. You get the first month for free with TV and you get free installation with TV only or TV + Internet orders. There is an installation charge for Internet Only Installs.
Take advantage of that first free month of TV, and 2 or 3 days before the end of the billing cycle, call up AT&T and cancel the TV portion of the service but keep the Internet. Make sure that is very clear that you want to keep U-Verse Internet.
And in the end, you should have U-Verse Internet Only. |
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·RoadRunner Cable
| said by fornold:If you order it with the TV to get the free install, is it required to actually hook up a TV? I'm sure your installer would be happy to not do extra work if you told him you didn't want him to. |
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 ILpt4UPremium join:2006-11-12 Lisle, IL kudos:4 Reviews:
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1 edit | said by MyDogHsFleas:said by fornold:If you order it with the TV to get the free install, is it required to actually hook up a TV? I'm sure your installer would be happy to not do extra work if you told him you didn't want him to. Actually, YES it is required to hook up the TV at an install. The STB needs to register on Install date. Otherwise it can cause billing and service issues. But I mean, Just have a small TV sitting next to the Computer and plug it straight into the RG. I would not have the installer mess with any of your current TV wiring if you are planning to keep it.
But at the same time, the STB just needs to register. After tha point, it does not matter. So the FIRST time you are able to watch TV via the STB, you can unplug it and put the TV back and put the STB away until AT&T sends you the boxes to return it. |
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| said by ILpt4U:Actually, YES it is required to hook up the TV at an install. The STB needs to register on Install date. Otherwise it can cause billing and service issues. But I mean, Just have a small TV sitting next to the Computer and plug it straight into the RG. I would not have the installer mess with any of your current TV wiring if you are planning to keep it. Good info, thanks, and sorry for the misleading/uninformed post on my part.
I guess you might as well try the TV (which is what I did before cancelling it) in case you change your mind about it, it'll already be there. |
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 | reply to Mad Mac I just signed up for U-Verse, internet only. They did not require me to get TV at all, and there was no installation fee. It was as easy as calling and asking for it. |
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 | reply to ILpt4U said by ILpt4U:said by MyDogHsFleas:said by fornold:If you order it with the TV to get the free install, is it required to actually hook up a TV? I'm sure your installer would be happy to not do extra work if you told him you didn't want him to. Actually, YES it is required to hook up the TV at an install. The STB needs to register on Install date. Otherwise it can cause billing and service issues. But I mean, Just have a small TV sitting next to the Computer and plug it straight into the RG. I would not have the installer mess with any of your current TV wiring if you are planning to keep it. But at the same time, the STB just needs to register. After tha point, it does not matter. So the FIRST time you are able to watch TV via the STB, you can unplug it and put the TV back and put the STB away until AT&T sends you the boxes to return it. I was thinking that something like that. I was just wondering if I needed to dig the small portable TV out of the closet or not. |
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 2 edits | reply to Mad Mac said by Mad Mac:Been doing a lot of reading on this and getting a lot of confusing info. My situation is that I can't get DSL due to distance from CO, but U-verse is now here - I'm very happy with my TV service (D*) but could be persuaded to switch internet from Time Warner if the price was right. Some posts suggest TV must be taken with internet, others suggest that non-DSL areas can get internet only. Any AT&T folks able to clarify? I was in the SAME situation that your in but in my case I choose to try U verse over Directv & dsl,
Since you have D,(either Directv or Dish) your going to end up paying for 2 tv sevcices,even if you unhook uverse wire from your tv, also note IF you call & cancel the tv part of the service within 24-48 hrs your internet will be sgutdown without notice you can also see the speed side by side,
as far as rating, i started out with wime warner cabel, went to Direct for 10 yrs, tried uverse APR 09-15th, now back to Direct
The u verse pict is ok, about like Comcast & the internet is similar speed to Roard Runner internet
I'am not a game player,so internet speeds were 2ndary to me, but be aware that U verse is still in the Beta stages,
I'll simply say i tried u verse, but didn't like it. but i'am sure some here will start saying i have a grudge against AT&T or uverse, (which is wrong) I have ALL my communication needs with AT&T,(everything they can offer (including every phone option) except U verse & networking.
their ok, I guess,better then OTA, but but how can you or anyone else make a decision UNLESS you know both sides ,(good & bad) of a service your going to be paying for,for a year,and NO Directv is not perfect, not by a long shot. -- how can u criticize someone else's faults, when U cannot even see your own. |
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| quote: also note IF you call & cancel the tv part of the service within 24-48 hrs your internet will be sgutdown without notice
That was not my experience. I installed U-verse TV + Internet, I cancelled the TV after 12 days or so, and they kept the Internet service for me. It's been about 10 days and no "shutdown without notice".
Judging from other posts here and elsewhere, my experience is much more common than yours.
I think you just ran into a billing/provisioning/order system glitch of some kind. |
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 | That was not my experience. I installed U-verse TV + Internet, I cancelled the TV after 12 days or so, and they kept the Internet service for me. It's been about 10 days and no "shutdown without notice". Judging from other posts here and elsewhere, my experience is much more common than yours. I think you just ran into a billing/provisioning/order system glitch of some kind. ================================================ or maybe it was more like a HUMAN tech/ technical error,
-- how can u criticize someone else's faults, when U cannot even see your own. |
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 | reply to Mad Mac In late May, 2008:
Me: "Hi. I'm super excited to see that Uverse is available in my area. I know I want replace my current DSL service with UVerse Internet, and I am considering replacing my satellite television with UVerse too. If order a bundled package, and the TV part doesn't work out, can I cancel it and keep the Internet service?"
ATT: "Sure, no problem. And since you are ordering a bundle, we'll give you free installation, a free gateway, a free DVR, one month of free television service and a $10 discount per month as long as you keep the television service."
Me: "Will there be any cancellation fees or a service contract?"
ATT: "Oh no. You can cancel any part of this service at any time, although you will stop receiving the bundle discount."
Me: "Your Internet service is about half the cost of my local cable company, even without the discount. Although it's a more than my current DSL."
ATT: "It's much faster than your DSL. We'll offer you a $50 Visa gift card for joining."
Me: "OK thanks." |
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 PeteBPremium join:2008-05-17 O Fallon, IL | reply to Mad Mac
CALL (800) 980-4910 I was given this number after I'd called their main HSI number to order DSL, only to find out that it was not available because my area has FTTP for U-verse and POTS.
I called on the 17th of May, ordered internet-only U-verse to be installed on the 6th, and was told the $95 for installation was waived. They also said there is no contract. |
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 | reply to Mad Mac
Re: U-verse Internet Only - what's the "official" position? I just called and was told that because I'm FTTP and DSL isn't offered that video is not required. I was quoted $55 for Max with $99 installation fee that couldn't be waived without also ordering video.
I was also told that 2 HD is now available to me but that there was still no official announcement to whole house DVR. He *thought* (read: no promise) that it would be out sometime in June.
I really don't want to pay a hundred dollar installation fee for a simple tier upgrade so I'll probably just hold tight and see what happens with the video component. |
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 PeteBPremium join:2008-05-17 O Fallon, IL | (Not that) special case self-install? said by Enlightener:I was quoted...$99 installation fee that couldn't be waived without also ordering video...I really don't want to pay a hundred dollar installation fee for a simple tier upgrade... In your case, having the ONT already installed and working at your house, I don't see why they couldn't just send you the RG and let you "install" it yourself. Hell, even doing the set-top boxes for the TV side would be easy, as long as you know your house's internal wiring.
It wouldn't hurt to ask, or to at least present the silly simplicity of your case as a reason to waive the fee.
You could also just cancel the video service, as people have mentioned doing above. -- GOING: Roadrunner, Brighthouse cable; Melbourne, Florida COMING: AT&T FTTP POTS & U-verse internet, DirecTV; O'Fallon, Illinois AT&T CallVantage (D-Link), NETGEAR, APC & Geek Squad UPS |
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Re: U-verse Internet Only - what's the "official" position? My first assumption is that it would be that simple. In fact, why should I even need a different RG? It's ethernet between my ONT and my RG so what could really be all that different? As for internal wiring, it's a brand new house with structured wiring ( 2 CAT5e and 1 RG6 in a star topology to 8 rooms ). It's a piece of cake.
Perhaps the ONT has to be replaced, perhaps the RG does ( easy ), perhaps it's just red tape.
Either way, I did ask and they said no to the waiver of installation fee. You are right, I could just ask for both and cancel video, but 1) I don't want people in my house mucking with my equipmentand 2) That just feels dishonest to tell them I want something when I know darn well that I don't. |
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·RoadRunner Cable
| said by Enlightener:That just feels dishonest to tell them I want something when I know darn well that I don't. Then don't tell them you want it. Tell them you probably don't want it, but you're willing to give it a try, since it comes with your order anyway, and that you will keep it if you are surprised and decide you want it, otherwise you will cancel it. None of that is untrue.
If you're still bothered by it, think about it this way. No one you talk to at AT&T -- the order takers, the installers, the people accepting the cancel request -- really gives even a tiny crap about whether you intended to keep it or not. They're just following the process that AT&T told them to follow -- which in fact allows you to cancel it. So just be bold and go forward with this! |
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 | reply to Mad Mac Ok I work for AT&T i can clarify a few things. Firstly i make only comission on my sales. I love the product as i have had it long before i worked for AT&T, and I also couldn't sell our comeptitors products as i simply see them as a bunch of KIAs, pintos, and yugos, some with the used car sales man of the year selling them for a higher price than my u-verse Cadillac....
Ok after clearifying where i am comming from i will say this:
Our 1.5 down/ 1.0 up basic express u-verse internet is comparable to comcasts 6.0-12.0 tier. I DONT KNOW WHY, but my mom has 6.0 comcast and it blows compare to the 1.5 express i had. I decided to upgrade to 3.0 pro for only 5 more a month. IT literally blows the doors off of anything, including the internet we have in the AT&T building, the internet my dad has at his work, and the internet i had on my college campus when i was in college still....
We also have a 6.0 and 10.0 internet, but i really really recomend people get the pro internet, and then later try out the higher tiers. You can upgrade online and downgrade whenever you want. Takes about an hour to shift the gears in the system, and your bill will be pro-rated....
We also have ridiculously low ping rates, like 10-20 ms. I believe its because of the deep fiber penetration we have in our network. The only residential internet that i could imagine to be faster is verizon fios, which is usually in areas att uverse is not, since both are ILEC (they own the wires) So lucky fios people go get it!
YOU DO NOT have to pay install for TV installs, so get a tv, internet and phone and if you want to get rid of the tv for whatever crazy reason, you can and keep the internet and phone. However you must pay for the internet in order to keep the VOIP phone.
As of now installs are free from door to door sales, also door to door sales people have a lot more gifts in their bag to give customers than the phone people. They also work on a pay structure that benefits the customer more than the phone people, and this will help solve any problems a customer may have. So please do listen to them when we send them to your doors, they will do a much more thorough job than the phone people calling your house.
If a sales rep told you to pay 95 for install and didn't get you the TV, he/she made a huge mistake in not explaining the product. Firstly we can give you a free month of that tv, and you will love it and keep it, there isn't a tv product on earth that comes close. I'd say again fios probably is comparable if not better than u-verse, but again they are not in the same territory as well they're more pricey.
So i gave you my unbiased oppinion of our product.
I have scene all the products here is my unbiassed oppinion: Wide Open West, same old stuff comcast has but i'd even say lesser quality product than comcast except they treat their customers like customers, and not pongs.
Comcast: Same thing as wow except they are a communist empire and treat you like you are part of their communist system and expect you to pay what they tell you and assume no competition. They have the highest profit to customer satisfaction ratio of any company on the planet (this is a fact), and according to the scientific law of business the only way that they can exist is by being a monopoly.
What WOW and comcast and all the other companies have in common:
Same old analogue/digital hybrid boxes, a few HD channels, a few on demand features that work slowly if at all, channels that take forever to change, crummy analogue picture quality that is noticeable even on old TVs, sub-par installs that leave wires hanging all over the place, internet that looks like dial up speeds after you see u-verse, and overall an out-dated antiquated piece of garbage that is going to die.
Now i felt this way about comcast and brighthouse, and all the cable providers i've scene the moment i got u-verse, many months before i worked for them! Now if i were lieing i would have just said i was a customer, but i wanted you to know that yes i do work for AT&T, no i don't get paid to type this, yes my job is door to door sales, no this will not help me make a dime writting this.
I feel like i am doing more than just making money at my job, i am literally taking people away from paying more for a kia/yugo and getting them in a cadillac for the same price or lower. Now isn't that a noble cause of mine? I literally could not sell comcast or wow or anyone else other than verizon fios because its not the very best thing. I actually would love to go work for verizon and sell fios as it is a better product. Go ahead get verizon if you have u-verse in your area, at&t was dumb to try to even go up against fios in the first place.
Fios costs more however, and its only the way it is cuz its in highly dense populated areas where they can afford to build that system.
AT&T u-verse and fios are neck and neck i'd say though overall. |
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