 marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Re: Shocking... said by pnh102:said by KrK:Only because they are under nuclear attack from the Big Incumbents.... But in this situation the incumbents have no real advantage over the socialist broadband program. Private companies have to pay taxes, abide by regulations and deal with all sorts of BS that a government operation is exempt from. They have one major advantage.
Utopia is barred from advertising.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Shocking... said by marigolds:They have one major advantage. Utopia is barred from advertising. Not having to spend money on advertising should lower the cost of UTOPIA then.
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 | | | Re: Shocking... Without advertising very few people know of the service. Barring the ad's the incumbents take out in the paper there is very little knowledge of Utopia. Combined with Qwest and Comcast's predatory pricing (show me anywhere in the country, heck anywhere in Utah where they offer the same prices they offer in Utopia service areas. Last I saw they were offering their full silver Cable package for $25 a month in Utopia service areas and you could tack in phone and internet (10mbit) for under $50 total. That's predatory, in fact it's probably below cost. Their goal is to kill Utopia then the prices go up, just like the rest of Utah to 10 times the prices offered in the Utopia service areas. | |
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New York, NY | Re: Shocking... said by rahvin112:Without advertising very few people know of the service. Barring the ad's the incumbents take out in the paper there is very little knowledge of Utopia. But thats the whole point, Utopia is a network NOT an end user service provider. The onus of advertising falls on MStar, ATT, and XMission who provide service over the Utopia network. I really think people are having a hard time getting their hands around this idea.
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| | | marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Re: Shocking... Advertising would help though; although not in the normal sense. Utopia would benefit heavily from commission style advertising designed to promote the system as a whole and benefit all of the ISPs as a group (think along the lines of the "Got Milk?" campaigns). | |
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| | | | wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | Re: Shocking... said by marigolds:Advertising would help though; although not in the normal sense. Utopia would benefit heavily from commission style advertising designed to promote the system as a whole and benefit all of the ISPs as a group (think along the lines of the "Got Milk?" campaigns). There is no question that Utopia could have done things better, I just dont think it could ever have succeeded the way it was planned and set up.
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| | | | | marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Re: Shocking... Well, it certainly has not failed yet. It's penetration numbers really are pretty high considering how long it has been around. Way higher than any other similar deployment at this point in its timeframe. | |
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