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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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| Steam has changed me Before, if I was eager to buy a game, I would be stopping by a store to get it. Now, the first place I check is Steam. The price of the game, minus tax, and minus the drive time and gas is worth it to me.
The only complaint I have would be for Steam to make it just a tad bit cheaper to buy a game since you aren't getting an actual disc. I would say "because you aren't getting a manual" but I haven't seen a well written game manual in ages. Still, instead of charging $50, charge $45.
I can only hope they continue to improve the service and bring on more and more distributor rights.
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| said by Nightfall:for Steam to make it just a tad bit cheaper to buy a game since you aren't getting an actual disc. Still, instead of charging $50, charge $45. In actuality, we most likely are getting a better deal, even if you can get the same game at a shop. If the game publisher is using both Steam and shops, I've noticed that the shop has same price. As others have said, you don't pay for taxes, gas and or aggrivation.
I won a cutting edge console gaming system as a door prize recently. I've not found a single "new not some remade 80s hit" game for less than $60, and most are more. | | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| reply to Nightfall
I agree tho, games from Steam (or online in general) SHOULD be cheaper.
You go to the store, you get a nice box, the art, the manual.... but you get something else, too. The item has actual financial value. You can keep it as a collector's item, or if you grow tired of it, you can sell it to someone else or trade it in. Try doing that with some burned DVD-R of a Steam download.
One other thing, also connected to physical value. Let's say you have a disaster, and your house is damaged, destroyed, computer burned, etc whatever.... The software you bought at the story is covered by insurance. Your downloaded files? GOOD LUCK ever getting a penny for them....
Therefore--- games downloaded should be WAYY cheaper then the store... All the savings the manufacturer has from not paying retail stores, not having to ship, no phyical media or packaging--- ALL THAT EXTRA MARGIN should be taken off and passed to you.
IMHO.
Course.... it will never happen.
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| said by KrK:I agree tho, games from Steam (or online in general) SHOULD be cheaper. You go to the store, you get a nice box, the art, the manual.... but you get something else, too. The item has actual financial value. You can keep it as a collector's item, or if you grow tired of it, you can sell it to someone else or trade it in. Try doing that with some burned DVD-R of a Steam download. One other thing, also connected to physical value. Let's say you have a disaster, and your house is damaged, destroyed, computer burned, etc whatever.... The software you bought at the story is covered by insurance. Your downloaded files? GOOD LUCK ever getting a penny for them.... Therefore--- games downloaded should be WAYY cheaper then the store... All the savings the manufacturer has from not paying retail stores, not having to ship, no phyical media or packaging--- ALL THAT EXTRA MARGIN should be taken off and passed to you. IMHO. Course.... it will never happen. I agree on your first point. Being able to sell the game or collectors edition is a big benefit.
As for the second point, that is incorrect. Lets say a tornado comes through and wipes your house out. You get insurance money for a new computer, and when you log into Steam you can redownload your game and play it. Really, you don't need to get anything for them because they are always available to you. | |
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| said by Nightfall:As for the second point, that is incorrect. Lets say a tornado comes through and wipes your house out. You get insurance money for a new computer, and when you log into Steam you can redownload your game and play it. Really, you don't need to get anything for them because they are always available to you. Well that is interesting, and kinda cool... but if your computer was wiped, and you're on a new PC, new ISP etc how can you recover your Steam Login?
I think I'd still prefer to have the physical item somewhere. Course Steam has an advantage if you have kids in one regard. Kids always seem to lose, scratch, and trash the discs. If you have Steam, well, not a problem. Still tho you can't trade or sell the games....
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 Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Erie, PA | said by KrK:but if your computer was wiped, and you're on a new PC, new ISP etc how can you recover your Steam Login? The same way you recover all your other logins; you remember your username and password. | |
 Smith6612Premium,MVM
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Exactly, and when you type in your username and password, all of your games tied to your account will be immediately available for re-download. Just log in, click Install, and download away, no matter what computer or ISP you are on. And if you forget your password, there is always e-mail, and if your account gets hacked, e-mail Valve and they'll get your account back. One of my friends got his account hacked and within a few days, Valve reset his password and e-mail so that he could get back in and use his games. | |
 TomekPremium
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Valley Stream, NY | reply to Nightfall
Here is a quick thought, what if you loose that damned disc?
You could easily be out of luck. With Steam I never have to worry about discs or those pesky serial numbers. | |
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| said by Tomek:Here is a quick thought, what if you loose that damned disc? You could easily be out of luck. With Steam I never have to worry about discs or those pesky serial numbers. I lost a few of my serial keys which is depressing. I started keeping record of all my keys when I buy the game so if I need to reinstall and I lost my disc, I can download a copy and use my current serial number.
You are right though, thats another advantage with Steam. | |
NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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said by KrK:said by Nightfall:As for the second point, that is incorrect. Lets say a tornado comes through and wipes your house out. You get insurance money for a new computer, and when you log into Steam you can redownload your game and play it. Really, you don't need to get anything for them because they are always available to you. Well that is interesting, and kinda cool... but if your computer was wiped, and you're on a new PC, new ISP etc how can you recover your Steam Login? I think I'd still prefer to have the physical item somewhere. Course Steam has an advantage if you have kids in one regard. Kids always seem to lose, scratch, and trash the discs. If you have Steam, well, not a problem. Still tho you can't trade or sell the games.... Any game that comes with a unique serial key isn't really a prime candidate for reselling value. I would NEVER buy a used game that requires a unique serial key. Who knows where the original owner has used that key, or kept a copy of it for that matter. With more and more games coming with unique keys, the reselling value of these games are pretty much non-existant unless you REALLY know the person selling the game.
Lastly, I don't sell games to be honest. Every game I have ever bought I have kept. I suppose thats a personal preference though. | |
 norkyPremium
join:2002-12-02
Lithia, FL | reply to KrK
said by KrK:I agree tho, games from Steam (or online in general) SHOULD be cheaper. You go to the store, you get a nice box, the art, the manual.... but you get something else, too. The item has actual financial value. You can keep it as a collector's item, or if you grow tired of it, you can sell it to someone else or trade it in. Try doing that with some burned DVD-R of a Steam download. One other thing, also connected to physical value. Let's say you have a disaster, and your house is damaged, destroyed, computer burned, etc whatever.... The software you bought at the story is covered by insurance. Your downloaded files? GOOD LUCK ever getting a penny for them.... Therefore--- games downloaded should be WAYY cheaper then the store... All the savings the manufacturer has from not paying retail stores, not having to ship, no phyical media or packaging--- ALL THAT EXTRA MARGIN should be taken off and passed to you. IMHO. Course.... it will never happen. They have to cover bandwidth costs | |
KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| said by norky:They have to cover bandwidth costs LOL. Yeah, true. And that's what 2-3 cents a GB. Way less then paying for the physical item, storage, shipment, returns, etc | |
Smith6612Premium,MVM
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kudos:21 | They also have to keep the lights on for the servers as well. No downloads without any servers :P | |
 ScreeIn the pipe 5 by 5
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Mount Laurel, NJ
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said by Nightfall:The only complaint I have would be for Steam to make it just a tad bit cheaper to buy a game since you aren't getting an actual disc. I would say "because you aren't getting a manual" but I haven't seen a well written game manual in ages. Still, instead of charging $50, charge $45. Good point, but you do come out ahead, because of course you do not have to keep such a disc in the drive in order to play. And there is usually an online manual for a game from the game's steam page you can keep as a pdf file. Finally, remember steam often has pre-release discount sales, and later weekend specials and whatnot. | |
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