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dbenne00

join:2008-01-18
Whitby, ON
reply to CanadianISP
Re: Is your VoIP or VPN affected by Bell's throttling practices?

My VPN is affected by Bell's B.S. They're screwing up my opportunity to work from home. My upload drops from 560 to 80kbps when they engage their throttling.

I have complained to the CRTC.


tertech

join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON

said by dbenne00 See Profile :

My VPN is affected by Bell's B.S. They're screwing up my opportunity to work from home. My upload drops from 560 to 80kbps when they engage their throttling.

I have complained to the CRTC.
How have you determined that the drop in speed is as a result of Bell's tampering? I would also like to 'stick it to them' for adversely affecting my ability to work from home. Do you have some kind of network tool that I could run also?

My fear is that they could deny throttling VPN and use the fact that you're experiencing slow speeds as a justification for throttling the evil P2P villains, and make themselves the hero of the story.



proof enough

@videotron.ca

said by tertech See Profile :

How have you determined that the drop in speed is as a result of Bell's tampering? I would also like to 'stick it to them' for adversely affecting my ability to work from home. Do you have some kind of network tool that I could run also?

My fear is that they could deny throttling VPN and use the fact that you're experiencing slow speeds as a justification for throttling the evil P2P villains, and make themselves the hero of the story.
If it happens during the time of the throttle, between 4:30pm and 2:00am, and its ok the rest of the time, thats proof enough.


R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
Oish...

dbenne00

join:2008-01-18
Whitby, ON
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reply to tertech
said by tertech See Profile :

How have you determined that the drop in speed is as a result of Bell's tampering? I would also like to 'stick it to them' for adversely affecting my ability to work from home. Do you have some kind of network tool that I could run also?

My fear is that they could deny throttling VPN and use the fact that you're experiencing slow speeds as a justification for throttling the evil P2P villains, and make themselves the hero of the story.
It's as simple as doing a speed test at speedtest.net and monitoring your upload speed throughout the day. If you are being throttled, you will see a pattern.

I persoanlly am not out to stick it to *them*, but rather I am trying to get them to stop sticking it to *me*. LOL.


tertech

join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON


edit:
May 2nd, @09:22PM

reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY See Profile :

Oish...
Oish? Isn't that Japanese slang for 'delicious' Rocky?

In Bell's response to the CAIP complaint they claimed...


- it has not been presented with any evidence that its Internet traffic management solution is having any impact on VPN or VoIP traffic;


Rather then saying outright "we are not", they are saying "you can't prove we are". Slimy bastards! I would just love to be able to present some irrefutable evidence. So far, all I see here is anecdotal situations that can be explained away by other factors; not the least of which is their assertion that the Internet is clogged during those hours by P2P'ers.

As long as it is believed that they are only affecting "copyright pirates", I'm sorry, but I just can't see the public at large being outraged by their actions. If it can be proven that they also are hindering people in the normal course of their job, that might stir some indignation. Outrage might still be too much to expect.

Is there anything Teksavvy can do to create a testbed? Set up a VPN service that several test customers can connect to and exchange data back and forth all day. If the VPN is located at your POP, then the only link is a direct connection between you and the client over the facility you lease from Bell. If the VPN traffic is slowed during the throttle hours when the overall bandwidth usage can be measured as moderate, that would prove that the VPN traffic is being slowed by artificial means rather than congestion. Heck, you could even ask everybody to not P2P on a certain day, and take the measurements then.

Does this make any sense, or has my indignation clouded my logic?
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