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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : The way things are looking in Canada either you get a dedicated line with at least 99.99 percent uptime guaranteed or you get dial-from America. In Canada there is no in-between. Outsourcing to India is akin to going to the zoo and asking the zoo animals for tech help.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1457782"><b>bicker</b></A> : Bull.  If customers were willing to pay enough extra for better service, then one of the suppliers would try it and the market would pushed in that direction.  Consumers only react to price.  That's why things are the way they are.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/614772"><b>jc100</b></A> : And back to my point.  Customer service makes the experience.  One can have a great product but bad customer service.  As a result, good product becomes marginal as one does not get proper help in using or receiving it.  On the same token, a fair product can be a good one if the customer service is top notch.  The people who you talk to, if knowledgeable, can show a person how to do and make the best out of something simple.  It's the truth. Business and products are 50 percent function and 50 percent perception.  One perceives something to be a good product many times if they understand how to use it fully and integrate it into their lives.  Most times, this require GOOD support that makes sure said product functions as promised.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/614772"><b>jc100</b></A> : I think that is pretty true to some extent.  I believe Americans are after the best value and the best service, for the least price.  However, companies that charge more and give great service usually win out.  How many times have you gone out of your way to go to a certain place because you liked it more? I know I have plenty of times.  There might be a store, restaurant, etc real close that does similar.  Yet, you are willing to blow the gas money to go to that one place.  It might not be the best bargain, but it also is reasonably priced and you love how you are treated. I think this speaks wonders to the American mindset.  While we want our deals, we want good service.  Sometimes, we find paying a bit more gets us both.  I truly believe that the companies who take the high road approach will do much better in the end.  Yes, the short term might see people leaving which does hurt, but the long run sees them returning.  There's only so much of being treated like crap for a bottom barrel value one is willing to take.  After that, the person is willing to step up and go to the next level if it means less frustration.  This anyway, has been my experience in life.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:09:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1171315"><b>tc1uscg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jc100 <A HREF="/useremail/u/614772"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think you are wrong.  Americans do want bargains but they also want the service that comes with it.  How would you like to go to a fast food restaurant (even though the item costs a dollar on the value menu) and be told to make your own meal?  Odds are, you'd walk out and go elsewhere.  By all means, you buying a single dollar item actually costs more to make than the business actually earns.  However, said business is still willing to serve you the item the same as the next guy who comes in and spends 20 dollars on that same menu.  It's a balancing act. Don't fool yourself to think that Americans don't want service.  We just want the service done right.  Just as you'd be irked if that dollar hamburger came out cold, so is the person who pays for their triple play and only has 2/3 items working and spends on month on the phone to get the other one fixed.  In summation, the delivery and approach count as they all affect the service of the product one receives.  Business is all about perception as they say.  One unhappy customer, whether big or small, has many friends to tell.<br> </div>You JC are correct. The customer(s) wants everything pretty much for FREE and then expects 110% customer service, with a smile, to go with it. The days we started buy stuff from dollar stores, buying our groceries from walmart and jumping form one cable provider to another just for 10.00 savings, we became too expectant. We expect way too much for such little price. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/138981"><b>Jovi</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>More/better customer service COSTS a lot more money(warm bodies being the most expensive corporate cost). And, so far at least, US customers are NOT willing to pay more for better service. When given the choice, a large majority of customers will invariably choose the cheapest service and NOT the best service. <br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br> </div>With Roberts comparing Cable to Dsl as a BMW/Hyundai, I should expect top of the line customer service, fast performance and issues fixed with unsurpassed efficiency and timeliness, no?<br><small>--<br>"Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  :(</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><b>footballdude</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>When given the choice, a large majority of customers will invariably choose the cheapest service and NOT the best service. </div>Which explains the popularity of VOIP.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/189562"><b>moonpuppy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Nightfall <A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Please read his post, he was talking about customer service, not the technical service you subscribe to.<br> </div>The cost of customer service was included in my monthly fee....not cheap.<br><br>Customer service was rarely good as they did not fix the problems. <br><br>Customer service was most certainly not fast since it took forever just to get them on the phone and their walk up counters were even worse.<br><br>0 for 3]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>It is easy to throw around accusations when you have no proof whatsoever.<br> </div>Seriously?<br><br>Prices within a couple dollars of each other, restrictive promotions, which are only in place to confuse you and keep you from moving because the price looks better than it really is, bundle discounts which require you have to spend money on services you may not want to save a couple bucks on the only service you needed ... they are mirror images of each other when viewed from 1,000 miles up.<br><br>Oh sure, they may cast an evil glance at each other from time to time because they steal phone or television customers ... but they both hold the status quo in their respective markets. When was the last time either cable or Ma Bell actually competed for your business?<br><br>I'd counter your final thought with the fact it's easy to turn a blind eye when there's money at stake.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/489959"><b>nasadude</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>More/better customer service COSTS a lot more money(warm bodies being the most expensive corporate cost). And, so far at least, <b>US customers are NOT willing to pay more for better service</b>. ...<br> </div>that's funny, it looks to me like US telcos are NOT willing to pay more for better customer service. They obviously recognize this as an issue or we wouldn't have had this news post.<br><br>according to your comment, it seems you believe customers must rise up and shout "charge us more money so we can have better customer service" before anything gets done.<br><br>this seems to be more of a PR issue for them; if the market were truly competitive, people would be voting with their feet and the company might decide to shave a point or two off their profit for better customer service to keep people from leaving.<br><br>I'm guessing they are worried about congress mandating a minimum level of service, or they wouldn't be doing or saying anything.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><b>Nightfall</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>More/better customer service COSTS a lot more money(warm bodies being the most expensive corporate cost). And, so far at least, US customers are NOT willing to pay more for better service. When given the choice, a large majority of customers will invariably choose the cheapest service and NOT the best service. <br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br> </div>I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.<br><br>Customer Service is an afterthought.  Its one of the first things that are shipped overseas because its easier to pay someone $3 a day to answer the phones over there and not pay them insurance.  As opposed to over here where you are paying $18 an hour + full benefits.<br><br>Would people pay for better support?  I agree with another poster when I say that if people had more of a choice of providers, then it would be easily measurable.  As it is right now, its not.  If you only have one high speed internet provider, you really can't measure customer service on that.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><b>Nightfall</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  moonpuppy <A HREF="/useremail/u/189562"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br> </div>Let's see.  I had digital/HD/DVR/HSI with Comcast.  It wasn't cheap, it wasn't good and it wasn't fast.  Where is my 2 out of 3?<br><br>A month ago, I have severe pixilization problems on channels 30 - 70.  I tried calling and all I got was a disconnect message because of high call volumes. When I finally got through, they said there were no other complaints and rolled a truck.  Even the truck tech said she knew about the problem and that Comcast needed to replace a piece of equipment. My friend down the street had the exact same problem and he was using boxes (I was straight into the TV with no box.) <br><br>Now, why did Comcast roll a truck (which costs money) and waste a tech's time (again, costing money and taking them away from much more legitamate calls) when they could have just dealt with the faulty equipment?  If they want to pay for customer service, maybe they need to do a better job of diagnosing problems and saving themselves a few dollars. <br> </div>Please read his post, he was talking about customer service, not the technical service you subscribe to.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>GOLFnSUN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> And those companies pretend they hate each other as they pass in the hall but secretly kiss every day after school under the bleachers.<br> </div>If you have any proof that anti-trust collusion is going on, please send that info to your local US Attorney so that the Justice Dept can prosecute them.<br> </div>And if you think it's not, you do need to stop drinking the corporate Kool-Aid.<br> </div>It is easy to throw around accusations when you have no proof whatsoever.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h"><b>My BLOG ..</b></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb"><i> .. Internet News ..</i></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto"><b> .. My Web Page</b></a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> And those companies pretend they hate each other as they pass in the hall but secretly kiss every day after school under the bleachers.<br> </div>If you have any proof that anti-trust collusion is going on, please send that info to your local US Attorney so that the Justice Dept can prosecute them.<br> </div>And if you think it's not, you do need to stop drinking the corporate Kool-Aid.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>GOLFnSUN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> And those companies pretend they hate each other as they pass in the hall but secretly kiss every day after school under the bleachers.<br> </div>If you have any proof that anti-trust collusion is going on, please send that info to your local US Attorney so that the Justice Dept can prosecute them.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h"><b>My BLOG ..</b></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb"><i> .. Internet News ..</i></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto"><b> .. My Web Page</b></a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>More/better customer service COSTS a lot more money(warm bodies being the most expensive corporate cost). And, so far at least, US customers are NOT willing to pay more for better service. When given the choice, a large majority of customers will invariably choose the cheapest service and NOT the best service. <br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br> </div>I don't think this is the case. Given an OPTION to choose a company with better customer service is a start. I don't see how you can conclude people won't pay for better customer service when 90% of the population only has two companies available to them. And those companies pretend they hate each other as they pass in the hall but secretly kiss every day after school under the bleachers.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/614772"><b>jc100</b></A> : Maybe Comcast wants to show off their fleet of trucks at 3.70 a gallon, along with paying said individual to drive it up and down the street, all in the name of advertising (sarcasm).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/189562"><b>moonpuppy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GOLFnSUN <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br> </div>Let's see.  I had digital/HD/DVR/HSI with Comcast.  It wasn't cheap, it wasn't good and it wasn't fast.  Where is my 2 out of 3?<br><br>A month ago, I have severe pixilization problems on channels 30 - 70.  I tried calling and all I got was a disconnect message because of high call volumes. When I finally got through, they said there were no other complaints and rolled a truck.  Even the truck tech said she knew about the problem and that Comcast needed to replace a piece of equipment. My friend down the street had the exact same problem and he was using boxes (I was straight into the TV with no box.) <br><br>Now, why did Comcast roll a truck (which costs money) and waste a tech's time (again, costing money and taking them away from much more legitamate calls) when they could have just dealt with the faulty equipment?  If they want to pay for customer service, maybe they need to do a better job of diagnosing problems and saving themselves a few dollars. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/614772"><b>jc100</b></A> : I think you are wrong.  Americans do want bargains but they also want the service that comes with it.  How would you like to go to a fast food restaurant (even though the item costs a dollar on the value menu) and be told to make your own meal?  Odds are, you'd walk out and go elsewhere.  By all means, you buying a single dollar item actually costs more to make than the business actually earns.  However, said business is still willing to serve you the item the same as the next guy who comes in and spends 20 dollars on that same menu.  It's a balancing act. Don't fool yourself to think that Americans don't want service.  We just want the service done right.  Just as you'd be irked if that dollar hamburger came out cold, so is the person who pays for their triple play and only has 2/3 items working and spends on month on the phone to get the other one fixed.  In summation, the delivery and approach count as they all affect the service of the product one receives.  Business is all about perception as they say.  One unhappy customer, whether big or small, has many friends to tell.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>GOLFnSUN</b></A> : More/better customer service COSTS a lot more money(warm bodies being the most expensive corporate cost). And, so far at least, US customers are NOT willing to pay more for better service. When given the choice, a large majority of customers will invariably choose the cheapest service and NOT the best service. <br><br>That old saying that you can have 2 of the 3 following items is still pretty accurate:<br>1 cheap<br>2 good<br>3 fast<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/bqv2h"><b>My BLOG ..</b></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2a9xcb"><i> .. Internet News ..</i></a><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yz8xto"><b> .. My Web Page</b></a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:43:46 EDT</pubDate>
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