Not Good for T-Mobile in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20420393 en Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:10:20 EDT Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:10:20 EDT Re: Not Good for T-Mobile http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20421135 tiger72 :
said by n2jtx See Profile :

I am a T-Mobile subscriber but it definitely does not look good for them. Short of partnering with the cable companies, they will not get a break on the backhauls they need to compete.

On top of that, only yesterday did they finally turn 3G on in limited areas and even that is a limited version of 3G, not the HSDPA implementation. LTE is already on the map and I suspect TMO will be left in the dust. At this point, the best thing they can do is keep prices low so that they can attract people who do not need all the glitz and glitter of the "big boys".
I also disagree. T-Mobile has far more experience worldwide with 3G than any other carrier. They've been delayed by the government not turning over the frequencies they won last year soon enough. Now that they're getting those frequencies, 3G is going up.

The only problem I have with T-Mobile is that they haven't planned big enough or far enough ahead. If they had chosen to wait until 4G, they could be competing directly with terrestrial broadband (dsl/fios/cable) in 2-3yrs.
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said by n2jtx See Profile :

I am a T-Mobile subscriber but it definitely does not look good for them. Short of partnering with the cable companies, they will not get a break on the backhauls they need to compete.

On top of that, only yesterday did they finally turn 3G on in limited areas and even that is a limited version of 3G, not the HSDPA implementation. LTE is already on the map and I suspect TMO will be left in the dust. At this point, the best thing they can do is keep prices low so that they can attract people who do not need all the glitz and glitter of the "big boys".
As far as I read, HSPDA is on, but there are no HSDPA AWS 1700 phones available to the public, so your stuck with older "UMTS" Release 4 handsets which only goto 384 kbps.

Also Sprint is the cellphone carrier who partners with cable companies for various purposes.

Here is an example. »cellularpcs.com/gallery/displayi···&pos=221

Problem is cable companies eventually realized that cellphone towers/cells need symmetrical bandwidth, and that they (cable companies) would rather use the limited bandwidth on the coax for their own purposes (PPV, DOCSIS, VOD control channels, etc) rather than lease it out. Now renting fiber to cell providers is a different story, since fiber bandwidth shouldn't be related to coax bandwidth unless the cable companies used a really stupid protocol over the fiber that prevents CWDM/DWDM. Another reason I think cell carriers are hesitant to go with cable company fiber backhaul is that cable companies aren't in the business of 9 fives reliability and executives **** their pants when they hear something doesn't come with 9 fives, even though the telcos can decide its cheaper to do the repair 9 to 5 over a couple days and refund that month's service fee than it is the roll a couple trucks at 1 AM in the morning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20420627 Fri, 02 May 2008 10:55:37 EDT Not Good for T-Mobile http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20420393 n2jtx : I am a T-Mobile subscriber but it definitely does not look good for them. Short of partnering with the cable companies, they will not get a break on the backhauls they need to compete.

On top of that, only yesterday did they finally turn 3G on in limited areas and even that is a limited version of 3G, not the HSDPA implementation. LTE is already on the map and I suspect TMO will be left in the dust. At this point, the best thing they can do is keep prices low so that they can attract people who do not need all the glitz and glitter of the "big boys".
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