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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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reply to vpoko
Re: I'd like to know

said by vpoko See Profile :

Of the 14 countries ahead of the US in broadband penetration, what is their total land size & population density versus the US? I'm not saying our policy isn't partially responsible, but I'd like to quantify the effect of policy by eliminating the obvious.
The OECD has already done studies that normalize for population density.

The result: there is little or no correlation between population density and broadband penetration rankings.

In other words, the cry "but we're so much bigger and spread out" is just another empty excuse for the sorry performance of the U.S.


vpoko
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join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA

I'd like to see the results that say there's "there is little or no correlation between population density and broadband penetration rankings." Simply put, I don't believe it. Even if national broadband policy has the bigger impact, how is it possible that pop. density is irrelevant to broadband penetration? There's no way that the correlation is zero.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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I might have exaggerated when I said "no correlation", but here is the data:

»www.oecd.org/sti/ict/broadband

data released June '07; go to item 3a for the spreadsheet.

a correlation of 0.24 is pretty low; in addition, note that there are 6 countries ahead of the U.S. with lower pop density, in some cases, much lower (US = 32, Canada =3.3)

penetration per 100 inhabitants/Pop. density
Denmark 34.3 /126.1
Netherlands 33.5 /400.5
Switzerland 30.7 /183.0
Korea 29.9 /484.9
Norway 29.8 /14.4
Iceland 29.8 /3.0
Finland 28.8 /15.6
Sweden 28.6 /20.2
Canada 25.0 /3.3
Belgium 23.8 /345.8
United Kingdom 23.7 /247.3
Australia 22.7 /2.7
France 22.5 /115.1
Luxembourg 22.2 /181.8
United States 22.1 /32.0
Japan 21.3 /338.2
Germany 21.2 /230.8
Austria 18.6 /98.7

Correlation: 0.24


vpoko
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join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA

That's some pretty good data, certainly shows there are problems beyond population density. But I would say the data is still flawed. Countries like Canada and Australia have populated regions, and they have areas where nobody lives. In the US, on the other hand, most remote areas still have some population. In other words, there's a lot of dead mass.

Tigerpaw509
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join:2006-07-15
Huntley, IL
reply to nasadude
So why no catv in my neighborhood ?
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