Marduk
join:2004-09-05
West Chester, PA
 ·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
Re: No Likey?
said by dadkins  :If the TOS is not to your liking, don't get the service! Don't give me this "Only Provider" BS. Yeah, but it's really the only viable provider for many people. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | *Viable* is subjective...
Ever hear of Sat?
Got Dialup?
Sprint/Verizon data plans?
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nathill
join:2004-05-03
Bloomington, IN | "Viable" in my case is satellite or 25K dialup. |
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Grafton
join:2006-08-26
Morgantown, WV
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
doesnt sound like you ever had to use/depend on sat or dialup
sat is more frustrating than dial-up = higher latency's about 7x more, 1500ms round trip to 200ms dial up
then there's dial-ups horrible ungodly slow speed ( todays web pages are huge for dialup ) and necessity for a phone line.
as for the data plans that is a viable service option but dont know much about it |
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ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :*Viable* is subjective... Ever hear of Sat? Got Dialup? Sprint/Verizon data plans? >Sat
Overpriced
>Dial-up
Ancient
>Sprint/Verizon
Not available in all area's. At least not "3g" type speeds. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to nathill
said by nathill :"Viable" in my case is satellite or 25K dialup. Exactly!
*IF* Comcast and their TOS was SO bad, I would get myself a wireless card for VZ or Sprint.
If there was no coberage for VZ or Sprint, I would likely opt for dialup.
Bitching about the TOS doesn't affect anything... it's just bitching! 
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..
| Actually, you're wrong. Bitching causes BAD PRESS, which is exactly what a monopoly cannot afford. Bitching alerts the public to how the megacorps are ripping people off. Bitching is what finally gets the politicians to pass laws to reign in their monopolistic ways.
Bitching is always the best solution.
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The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Grafton
said by Grafton :doesnt sound like you ever had to use/depend on sat or dialup sat is more frustrating than dial-up = higher latency's about 7x more, 1500ms round trip to 200ms dial up then there's dial-ups horrible ungodly slow speed ( todays web pages are huge for dialup ) and necessity for a phone line. as for the data plans that is a viable service option but dont know much about it Yes I have! I had dialup via Bay Area Internet Solutions.
I wanted faster.
I looked at Comcast and READ the TOS/AUP - acceptable!
I agreed!
Here we are today 4 years later and I have even opted to pay the $10.00 Extra for more speed!
Like I posted in the original post: "... don't get it then bitch!"
"Only Option" is bullshit!
If y'all really want connectivity... you can get connected!
Dialup is $9.99
Want faster?
Might cost a bit more than $9.99, but Sat will work!
Latency or FAP on Sat? Sure!
What do you expect? The damn thing is 20,000 miles away!
That's a hell of a first hop! 
*BUT* it is faster than dialup!
If Comcast is the only service that has low latency, and fast speed, then YOU must decide if the TOS is acceptable or not.
If not, don't get it! DUH!
If yes, Cool! 
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx :Actually, you're wrong. Bitching causes BAD PRESS, which is exactly what a monopoly cannot afford. Bitching alerts the public to how the megacorps are ripping people off. Bitching is what finally gets the politicians to pass laws to reign in their monopolistic ways. Bitching is always the best solution. No, Lobbying(payola) gets Politicians to change laws.
Bitching is just that - bitching.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to ShadezeRO
said by ShadezeRO :>Sat Overpriced >Dial-up Ancient >Sprint/Verizon Not available in all area's. At least not "3g" type speeds. >TOS unacceptable but you still get it
Piss, snivel, and whine? 
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | Re: No Likey?
LOL, not much worse than Blu-Ray apparently.
»blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/arch···883.html |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | »www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37039/113/
Los Angeles (CA) - The first quarter of 2008 was a huge success for Blu-ray, as sales grew by 351 percent over the same period last year, reports trade publication Home Media Magazine.
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bicker
join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA | reply to Marduk
Which means that the service Comcast is offering is the best of the options. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :said by karlmarx :Actually, you're wrong. Bitching causes BAD PRESS, which is exactly what a monopoly cannot afford. Bitching alerts the public to how the megacorps are ripping people off. Bitching is what finally gets the politicians to pass laws to reign in their monopolistic ways. Bitching is always the best solution. No, Lobbying(payola) gets Politicians to change laws. Bitching is just that - bitching. But lobbying dosent keep politicians elected. Sooner or later, pols have to listen to their constituancy...especially if theres enough people bitching about it! |
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Marduk
join:2004-09-05
West Chester, PA
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
Re: No Likey?
said by dadkins :*Viable* is subjective... Ever hear of Sat? Got Dialup? Sprint/Verizon data plans? Latency. Can't play games on SAT.
Dialup is not fast enough, plus VoIP wont work on Dialup, or SAT.
Sprint/Verizon? No...
Viable seems less and less subjective.
Well I can't say that Comcast is my only viable alternative anymore. As of last year, Verizon Fios became available.
Until then it was a Comcast monopoly. |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| reply to dadkins
While you do have a valid point, you are overexagerating the availability and feasability of the otehr options.
Sat is only an option if thats the only thing you can get.
While dial-up is available everywhere, even when it was in its heyday, some locations still had to dial long distance to the nearest ISP. Now that most of the smaller dial up firms have gone away, there arent as many local numbers as there used to be. I used to be able to find 20 numbers local, last time I looked a few years ago, there were only 3.
So, even if it was free, some people would still get long distance charges. So not really a feasable option.
Just in case you are wondering, I have Comcast, the highest tier available in my area (6/768) and I am very pleased with it. Over the last 2 years, I've had less that 30 min of downtime. I have had some problems, but it was back when CC was upgrading so I kind of expected odd speeds and such. (My upload was 1.2m while my download was 800k). And everytime I go to the CC office or have to call them, I always get the friendliest people, so theres no customer service problems in this area.
Oh and I have a choice of 2 other providers as well. Att/Bellsouth DSL and Knology cable. |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| reply to Dogfather
You also have to remember that DVD had been around for ~7 years before it became the dominant format. I was the first in my family to get a DVD player, and it was 12/00 and a PS2.
And BD will probably have a slower uptake because you need an HD set or a BD is pointless. With DVD you didnt have to buy a $600-$1000 tv AND a $400 player, you just needed the $400 player. |
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