said by Bubba1 :

Hi Littlem129,

Well, I'm entitled to exaggeration by birth .. from Texas. ;)

And, I think you've underestimated your abilities. :)

No, as for user experience, everyone has their own thoughts as to what constitutes "below-average-above" and additional levels beyond "above average".

Regardless of where that all falls, this area highlights my most frustrating experience with Kaspersky .. thinking it to be among the very best products (KIS, certainly) available and simultaneously KNOWING that I'm personally aware of lot's of folks that, I believe, are incapable of using the software. They are virtually unaware of security, to say nothing of the dangers. They, mostly continually, struggle with malware infections while being unaware that malware is responsible for whatever current problem they face, from system slowdown to not being able to access certain programs any longer while, suddenly (if ever), discovering they possess NEW programs they're certain they didn't install. Forget rootkits. They are clicking here, clicking there going to "EXTRA protection required" sites. Hell, they're doing financial transactions from banking to purchases. They are, completely, clueless! Do these folks just live within my little realm I call home? Don't you know these people?

And, with all the time you've spent on the forum helping .. from perpetual problems with folks just getting the software INSTALLED, let along using it .. if you do know some of the people I've described, would you recommend Kaspersky to them?

Yes, as you said, some functions with KIS8 have been simplified .. but, it's still, in my estimation, beyond the clueless people I know .. I still cannot recommend it. Too, I suppose it's now no secret, I detest the KIS8 gui. Oh well.

said by Littlem129 :

I don't think that KIS 2009 is hard to use or learn at all and I am an average user.

said by Bubba1 :

And, THAT'S the truth! :hmm:

I do not doubt that it's, in totality, an amazing achievement. We'll know how good when it gets some critical testing.

But, my problem with KIS6/KIS7 has been the extremely high learning curve/high degree of (proper) install/usage difficulty for the "average" user. You know them .. anyone who's ever used KIS6/KIS7 knows them .. those people who you know you CANNOT recommend the software to because it is BEYOND their ability to properly use/troubleshoot!

I've spent some number of weeks playing with various builds of the new KIS8 .. and, I think, "vastly different" and "will take some getting used to" are an understatement. In fact, if KIS6/KIS7 are IN ORBIT difficult for the average user to use .. Kaspersky, with KIS8, now leaves orbit heading for DEEP SPACE difficult!

There's more crap going on in KIS8 than one can even begin to shake a stick at! And, it's slung across the GUI from one end to the other .. can we say toooooooo busy?!?

But, hey, I think it's the best anti-malware software currently available on this planet .. period!

Too, personally, I also think that KIS8 moves them towards eliminating "above average" users from their potential customer-base.

said by Bubba1 :

And, THAT'S the truth! :hmm:

I do not doubt that it's, in totality, an amazing achievement. We'll know how good when it gets some critical testing.

But, my problem with KIS6/KIS7 has been the extremely high learning curve/high degree of (proper) install/usage difficulty for the "average" user. You know them .. anyone who's ever used KIS6/KIS7 knows them .. those people who you know you CANNOT recommend the software to because it is BEYOND their ability to properly use/troubleshoot!

I've spent some number of weeks playing with various builds of the new KIS8 .. and, I think, "vastly different" and "will take some getting used to" are an understatement. In fact, if KIS6/KIS7 are IN ORBIT difficult for the average user to use .. Kaspersky, with KIS8, now leaves orbit heading for DEEP SPACE difficult!

There's more crap going on in KIS8 than one can even begin to shake a stick at! And, it's slung across the GUI from one end to the other .. can we say toooooooo busy?!?

But, hey, I think it's the best anti-malware software currently available on this planet .. period!

Too, personally, I also think that KIS8 moves them towards eliminating "above average" users from their potential customer-base.

said by norwegian :

It is a vastly different program to 7 and will take some getting used to. :)

said by Graystoke :

I haven't seen any threads on the new KAV/KIS 8 here at BBR. Anyone try the new KAV/KIS 8 RC? How is the performance? Is this version overall better than KAV/KIS 7?

said by Graystoke :

I've got a brand new computer, only one week old, and I'm a little afraid to install this new software from KL because of the chkdisk problem with KAV/KIS 7. They were supposed to eliminate the chkdisk problem, but I'd like to make sure before installing this new version on this computer.

said by Cudni :

if you are worried about your new comp, installing RC software is not a good idea. Once it is final though, another story :)

Cudni