  ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09 Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to koolkid1563 Re: Confused about large boxes.
said by koolkid1563 :Since they started, they have come out with smaller VRADs. The smallest of which is actually smaller than most existing phone cross connects IMO. I realized today that where they are adding VRADs they are typically replacing the old 36" tall (give or take), wider crossboxes with ones that are significantly taller and skinnier. I wondered if there's a defensible technical reason for that, or if they are just putting in taller crossboxes to make the new (shorter or not) VRADs look better.
Also I realize you said "IMO" but I'd like to see an example of a VRAD smaller than a crossbox at a VDSL-compatible distance from the subscriber. For example I would guess most of what's around here is 600 to 900 pairs in a 3M MS2 crossbox, not the 2700-pair or larger monsters I see on the big cable routes. That is, VRADs are smaller only in height, not in width, surface area or cubic footage. -- USNG: 16TDN2870 Find your Lat-Long: Geocoder |
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 ILpt4U
join:2006-11-12 Lisle, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| said by ArgMeMatey :said by koolkid1563 :Since they started, they have come out with smaller VRADs. The smallest of which is actually smaller than most existing phone cross connects IMO. I realized today that where they are adding VRADs they are typically replacing the old 36" tall (give or take), wider crossboxes with ones that are significantly taller and skinnier. I wondered if there's a defensible technical reason for that, or if they are just putting in taller crossboxes to make the new (shorter or not) VRADs look better. Also I realize you said "IMO" but I'd like to see an example of a VRAD smaller than a crossbox at a VDSL-compatible distance from the subscriber. For example I would guess most of what's around here is 600 to 900 pairs in a 3M MS2 crossbox, not the 2700-pair or larger monsters I see on the big cable routes. That is, VRADs are smaller only in height, not in width, surface area or cubic footage. I have kinda noticed that too. If the X-Box is replaced, the new one tends to be 5 or 6 ft tall and narrower and tan in color, similar to the taller, slimmer version of the VRAD. And that X-Box ends up with one of those taller VRADs when U-Verse comes a callin.
However, if the X-Box is not being replaced, then the VRAD tends to be the Mini model, which tends to be closer in dimensions to the older X-Box, about 3-4 ft tall, and about 4 ft wide.
I've also noticed ONE Mini VRAD that is green in color, like a X-Box. I posted pics of it over at uverseusers.com. But that ONE VRAD is the exception, not the rule. »www.uverseusers.com/component/op···,7543.0/ |
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  sechs Premium join:2001-07-19 Left Coast
·AT&T U-Verse
| said by ILpt4U :I've also noticed ONE Mini VRAD that is green in color, like a X-Box. I'm provisioned out of a VRAD like that. But there are also 52b's and 52bp's in my neighborhood. |
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 ILpt4U
join:2006-11-12 Lisle, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| "Like that" as in the Mini model? or the green in color? or both?
Maybe green VRADs are not nearly as rare as I thought... But why not make more of them green then? I would think the green color would blend in better with surrounding landscaping (that is usually some shade of green). I have seen countless tan VRADs (and a few different models as well), but only one green one. |
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  sechs Premium join:2001-07-19 Left Coast
·AT&T U-Verse
| Um, yes?
Like I said, all three of the known models of VRADs are in my neighborhood. However, none of them are really "camouflaged." The fact that one is green doesn't make much of a difference, as the cross box next to which it sits is a *different* shade of green. -- It's not what you know but who you know... |
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 NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to ILpt4U said by ILpt4U :I would think the green color would blend in better with surrounding landscaping (that is usually some shade of green). I can't say that the ones I have seen would be a better match for the landscaping if they were some shade of green.
Many are on parking strips, between a street and sidewalk abutting a dark brown wooden fence. At least one is adjacent to a chain link fence enclosing a school playground.
Only a few front a yard by a house. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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