Re: Confused about large boxes. in AT&T U-verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20427785 en Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:35:33 EDT Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:35:33 EDT Re: Confused about large boxes. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433290 NormanS :
said by ILpt4U See Profile :

I would think the green color would blend in better with surrounding landscaping (that is usually some shade of green).
I can't say that the ones I have seen would be a better match for the landscaping if they were some shade of green.

Many are on parking strips, between a street and sidewalk abutting a dark brown wooden fence. At least one is adjacent to a chain link fence enclosing a school playground.

Only a few front a yard by a house.
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Like I said, all three of the known models of VRADs are in my neighborhood. However, none of them are really "camouflaged." The fact that one is green doesn't make much of a difference, as the cross box next to which it sits is a *different* shade of green.
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Maybe green VRADs are not nearly as rare as I thought... But why not make more of them green then? I would think the green color would blend in better with surrounding landscaping (that is usually some shade of green). I have seen countless tan VRADs (and a few different models as well), but only one green one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432793 Mon, 05 May 2008 02:00:21 EDT Re: Confused about large boxes. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432697 sechs :
said by ILpt4U See Profile :

I've also noticed ONE Mini VRAD that is green in color, like a X-Box.
I'm provisioned out of a VRAD like that. But there are also 52b's and 52bp's in my neighborhood.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432697 Mon, 05 May 2008 01:17:10 EDT Re: Confused about large boxes. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432687 ILpt4U :
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said by koolkid1563 See Profile :

Since they started, they have come out with smaller VRADs. The smallest of which is actually smaller than most existing phone cross connects IMO.
I realized today that where they are adding VRADs they are typically replacing the old 36" tall (give or take), wider crossboxes with ones that are significantly taller and skinnier. I wondered if there's a defensible technical reason for that, or if they are just putting in taller crossboxes to make the new (shorter or not) VRADs look better.

Also I realize you said "IMO" but I'd like to see an example of a VRAD smaller than a crossbox at a VDSL-compatible distance from the subscriber. For example I would guess most of what's around here is 600 to 900 pairs in a 3M MS2 crossbox, not the 2700-pair or larger monsters I see on the big cable routes. That is, VRADs are smaller only in height, not in width, surface area or cubic footage.
I have kinda noticed that too. If the X-Box is replaced, the new one tends to be 5 or 6 ft tall and narrower and tan in color, similar to the taller, slimmer version of the VRAD. And that X-Box ends up with one of those taller VRADs when U-Verse comes a callin.

However, if the X-Box is not being replaced, then the VRAD tends to be the Mini model, which tends to be closer in dimensions to the older X-Box, about 3-4 ft tall, and about 4 ft wide.

I've also noticed ONE Mini VRAD that is green in color, like a X-Box. I posted pics of it over at uverseusers.com. But that ONE VRAD is the exception, not the rule.
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They do a pretty good job of putting them in places where they are either out of the way or in a crowd of other utility and traffic cabinets.

There's also a brief look-see on the inside of a VRAD about half-way through the video.
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said by koolkid1563 See Profile :

Since they started, they have come out with smaller VRADs. The smallest of which is actually smaller than most existing phone cross connects IMO.
I realized today that where they are adding VRADs they are typically replacing the old 36" tall (give or take), wider crossboxes with ones that are significantly taller and skinnier. I wondered if there's a defensible technical reason for that, or if they are just putting in taller crossboxes to make the new (shorter or not) VRADs look better.

Also I realize you said "IMO" but I'd like to see an example of a VRAD smaller than a crossbox at a VDSL-compatible distance from the subscriber. For example I would guess most of what's around here is 600 to 900 pairs in a 3M MS2 crossbox, not the 2700-pair or larger monsters I see on the big cable routes. That is, VRADs are smaller only in height, not in width, surface area or cubic footage.
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Well, I was just at a person's house that just got U-verse (to hook up his wireless to his new laptop) and I looked around the neighborhood, and saw no large boxes anywhere. Are these boxes used only in some cities, or is the fear unfounded?

By the way, this was in St. Charles, IL.
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