FrackHD
@verizon.net | Yet another HD complaint thread
Seriously...
Even Bermuda CableVision is rolling out new HD Channels (read on engadgetHD)
What the frack is taking Verizon so long?
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psbny
join:2002-01-06
Peekskill, NY
1 edit | The thing that is taking so long is the conversion of FiOS to all digital throughout the country. Once the whole country is all digital Vz will quickly add additional programming. | |
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 | lets456
join:2008-01-21
Hainesport, NJ
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by psbny  :The thing that is taking so long is the conversion of FiOS to all digital throughout the country. Once the whole country is all digital Vz will quickly add additional programming. I believe something like 48 more SD channels and 26 HD channels towards the end of July. I have heard Mid-June, Late August, late July......I honestly think it's all speculation. If it ain't here by September I'll look at other options. I'd love to have more HD, but any "timelines" for HD are purely speculation. Nobody really knows. Just like HD VOD, we'll wake up one morning and it will be there. | |
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| kirk1233
join:2003-08-15
Pittsburgh, PA | Why do they need to give it to the entire country at the same time? If Pittsburgh and other markets are all digital already why not deploy as headends are capable? | |
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join:2008-01-21
Hainesport, NJ
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by kirk1233 :Why do they need to give it to the entire country at the same time? If Pittsburgh and other markets are all digital already why not deploy as headends are capable? Speculation...nobody really knows. Anyone that posts time frames are really just taking a guess....take it with a grain of salt. The only post I have seen that has "some merit" was from a Verizon employee that said some time in mid June for the markets that are all digital at this time.....But, I'm not holding my breath. | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread I don't think that's the case now. I think they are shooting for everyone the last week of July, 26 HD's | |
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
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| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by matcarl :I don't think that's the case now. I think they are shooting for everyone the last week of July, 26 HD's 26 in addition to what we already have?
Where are they going to squeeze them? Is there going to be renumbering? | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Yes 26 in addition to what we have. No word yet on the numbering system | |
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Very nice! I will look forward to at least a bit more HD programming. | |
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join:2008-01-03
Pleasantville, NY | Matt....
Is this a rumor or a reliable source?? Where is this coming from ? | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by FIOS MAN :Matt.... Is this a rumor or a reliable source?? Where is this coming from ? Pretty reliable, however since the date is still so far out, you know how it could change. | |
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join:2008-01-03
Pleasantville, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Yeah, I know...Same ole' story! | |
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tew1165
join:2008-01-03
Chalfont, PA
| I think Verizon is going to have to wait until all VHO's are digital and turn on all new channels at the same time. Can you imagine the outcry if a couple VHO's get all this new HD and no one else does? Verizon's customer service lines would be jammed with complaints from customers who haven't yet gotten the new channels. I just can't imagine anything but a national rollout of the new channels all at once. | |
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| afiggatt
join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by tew1165 :I think Verizon is going to have to wait until all VHO's are digital and turn on all new channels at the same time. Can you imagine the outcry if a couple VHO's get all this new HD and no one else does? Verizon's customer service lines would be jammed with complaints from customers who haven't yet gotten the new channels. I just can't imagine anything but a national rollout of the new channels all at once. Well, Comcast, Time Warner, and the cable companies roll out new HD channels on a market by market basis. (Heck, there are Comcast franchises that still have no HD channels at all). Why should Verizon be different? Yes, those of us who read dslreports & avsforum are aware that Verizon currently has the same national SD & HD channel line-up (with a few exceptions) in all markets. But most subscribers probably do not and don't care. All they care about is what channels they get.
If Verizon waits until all VHOs are all digital, we will not get any new HD channels until October. The schedule posted months ago has Texas analog shutdown starting on Sept. 22 and so far they appear to be sticking reasonably close to that schedule. But Fios has only 40 analog channels at most. Verizon may be adding QAM channel capacity ahead of the analog shutdown in some markets so they can add some HD channels. We don't know for sure.
If I had a buck for every post here claiming the 1st set of new HD channels would be added in April, May, June, July, August or never, I could use the money to sign up for Comcast for 6 months and get CNN-HD & Sci-Fi HD in over re-compressed HD.  | |
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tew1165
join:2008-01-03
Chalfont, PA | Oh, and one other thing. Since in my opinion the new HD rollout will have to be national, that means no one will get the new HD until that last of the VHO's have been upgraded, probably sometime in June or July. | |
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tew1165
join:2008-01-03
Chalfont, PA
| afiggatt, you make some good points. I'm assuming the rollout would be national simply because Verizon seems to treat FIOS TV as more of a national product than the cable companies do, but I did not realize the last of the analog shutdowns was scheduled for October. It would be painful waiting that long. Here's hoping it happens much sooner.
FMR VZMAN, do you have any information? I realize you're no longer with Verizon but you always seem to be able to clarify things on these boards. | |
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HD MAN
@optonline.net | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread 26 HD & 48 SD added between July 23 & 31 with more to follow in October. | |
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frankpf3
verizon.net
join:2007-08-09
Huntington Station, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread What's the channel list? | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread What I really want to know if all these channels are going to be added primarily to the existing Premier package, other packages, and/or will there be new packages created... | |
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join:2008-01-21
Hainesport, NJ | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread When and how? | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Thanks Savvy, too bad they are counting a PPV Event channel among them. | |
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join:2003-08-30
Camarillo, CA
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by matcarl :Thanks Savvy, too bad they are counting a PPV Event channel among them. I am glad that they will have HD PPV Events. As a boxing fan coming from DirecTV a couple of years back, it's been hard watching the fights in SD. I am sure that there are a bunch of MMA and even WWE fans that are looking forward to watching PPV events in HD!  | |
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frankpf3
verizon.net
join:2007-08-09
Huntington Station, NY | Good job savvy. | |
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PoloDude
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join:2006-03-29
East Northport, NY | That list by savvy is correct.
time frame is end of July. This year! | |
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Nezmo
The name's Bond. James Bond.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-11-10
Coppell, TX
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by frankpf3 :What's the channel list? Does it matter? You know you'll be last to get them...
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frankpf3
verizon.net
join:2007-08-09
Huntington Station, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread 1.) He gave the list of HD channels to me.
2.) Nice productive post.
3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money. | |
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join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by frankpf3 :3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money. How dare you expect a giant corporation to give you the most for your money.. you should be flogged without mercy.... | |
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Nezmo
The name's Bond. James Bond.
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join:2004-11-10
Coppell, TX
| said by frankpf3 :1.) He gave the list of HD channels to me. 2.) Nice productive post. 3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money. Chill. Just a little joke bud.
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| lets456
join:2008-01-21
Hainesport, NJ
| said by tew1165 :afiggatt, you make some good points. I'm assuming the rollout would be national simply because Verizon seems to treat FIOS TV as more of a national product than the cable companies do, but I did not realize the last of the analog shutdowns was scheduled for October. It would be painful waiting that long. Here's hoping it happens much sooner. FMR VZMAN, do you have any information? I realize you're no longer with Verizon but you always seem to be able to clarify things on these boards. HD VOD was added on a "market by market" basis. Some had it a few months before others....So what makes you think that Verizon will change things with the HD roll out?
I think it's going to be "market by market"....the same way they shut off analog. They made a promise to several "news sources" and if they roll out HD in only one market by late spring, then technically they kept their word. | |
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RKO 316
join:2008-04-12
Crofton, MD | Is this information about the HD channels real or just channels that you want?
I can't seem to find any news about that might be fake or made up.  | |
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FMR VZMAN
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread if it were real, it would have both Center Ice and League Pass - neither of which should be expected in the first round of adds | |
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join:2006-03-08
Princeton, NJ
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread It sounds like the real thing. MLB EI and NHL CI share the same 14 channels on In Demand. NBA LP is on different channels. So Savvy got that correct.
I just hope Verizon provides GameHD which is part of the MLB EI/NHL CI package. GameHD is part of the carriage agreement and is free. Comcast has made a bonehead decision
not to provide GameHD. Without GameHD the MLB EI/NHL CI package is not very good. Most people who sub to MLB EI/NHL CI have HD and want GameHD. The sports packages are useless
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FMR VZMAN
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread said by Hound :It sounds like the real thing. MLB EI and NHL CI share the same 14 channels on In Demand. NBA LP is on different channels. So Savvy got that correct. I just hope Verizon provides GameHD which is part of the MLB EI/NHL CI package. GameHD is part of the carriage agreement and is free. Comcast has made a bonehead decision not to provide GameHD. Without GameHD the MLB EI/NHL CI package is not very good. Most people who sub to MLB EI/NHL CI have HD and want GameHD. The sports packages are useless without HD channels. I realize how hopeful you are about getting these services, but you need to read both Savvy's and my posts more closely.
There is no League Pass listed, and I know from having read the contracts that they can't launch the MLB/NHL channels without the NBA channels (10 at least, plus NBATV) - which aren't listed. | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
1 edit | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Why list NBA when it doesn't start until September? Those are dead channels in the summer. Verizon is adding more HD at the beginning of October, maybe then they will include it. | |
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paperson
@verizon.net
| I had to call Verizon about a billing problem (shock!) last Friday. The rep was very nice and we got to chatting about Verizon TV. I asked her what the story was with HD and She told me they are being swamped with calls complaining about more HD channels. She said just Friday, she had 12 calls herself about more HD channels and, as she said, that was even before she had lunch.
So, there are calls being made and being logged. Hopefully, they will listen. Personally, I have more faith in Verizon than Comcast as far as listening to people's complaints. | |
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Max1
join:2008-01-04
East Meadow, NY
| That's a good list of channels. I can't wait.
Here are some HD channels we will still be missing after July:
Bio. HD, Cartoon Network HD, Disney Channel HD, Toon Disney HD, Nick HD, FX HD, Spike HD, Speed HD, Fox Business Network HD, Fuel TV HD, Tennis Channel HD, VH1 HD, MTV HD, CMT HD, NHL Network HD, NBA TV HD, MGM HD, Big Ten Network HD.
I would have substituted Outdoor Channel HD, Lifetime HD East, and ABC Family HD with FX HD, Spike HD, & Speed HD. | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Big Ten is on the list and ABC Family isn't | |
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Max1
join:2008-01-04
East Meadow, NY | Your right, Matcarl. Big Ten Network HD is on the list. What's that Family HD channel? Isn't that the HD version of ABC Family channel? I'm not familiar with that channel. | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Starz Kids & Family | |
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Baff
join:2007-12-05
Murrieta, CA
1 edit | The only HD channel I care about that isn't on the list is BBC America HD. They have been advertising that it is going to launch soon, but they haven't given a date yet (as far as I know). | |
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Hajman
join:2001-12-17
Phoenixville, PA
| Question for all the posters to this thread - why the clamor for adding all the HD channels ASAP? Won't a ton of the content on the HD channels to be added still be in SD or stretch 'o vision.
Here is how I see it:
HD Irrelevant: ESPNews, CNN, Weather Channel, CNBC
Filled with Stretch-O-Vision: Animal Planet, TBS, The History Channel, The Learning Channel, USA, Lifetime, Bravo, SCI FI
Extra subscription channels for which a HD channel already exists: Showtime West, Cinemax West, HBO West
Sports: Big Ten Network, Versus / Golf
Channels I know nothing about: MOJO, The Science Channel, Starz Edge, Starz Comed, Starz Kids and Family, Outdoor Channel, Smithsonian
Perhaps some of my classifications are wrong, but beyond Versus / Golf, baseball playoffs on TBS and very little original programming on Sci Fi (like BSG - that I don't watch) and other channels, I don't get why people are so amped about adding HD channels NOW. | |
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Smiles
join:2004-07-14
Sudbury, MA
| CNBC HD is not irrelevant, unless you don't watch it in the first place. They use the extra real estate to pack more financial information on the screen. Definitely one of the top five channels I'm looking for.
»www.cnbc.com/id/20996011/ | |
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| harley3k
join:2007-04-10
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread
It is pointless to say that most channels will not have 24/7 HD content, because no one ever watches one channel all the time.
The point is that if the flagship shows you watch are in HD, then that 1 or 2 hours per week that you actually watch that channel is all that matters. | |
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join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: Yet another HD complaint thread Like many others, I love TV, and there are plenty of HD shows I enjoy watching, such as- Cold Case, CSI Miami, NCIS, Criminal Minds, Heroes, CSI NY, Boston Legal, Lost, Shark, CSI, Without A Trace, ER, Ghost Whisperer, Moonlight, Mumb3rs, Jericho, The Unit, L&O, Jay Leno. I'm glad we have a DVR, but I wish I could record (or even watch) Stargate Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica in HD. I also like the Colts and I'm looking forward to the debut of the Lucas Oil Stadium on NBC's Sunday Night Football season premier.
But, I just got through watching a season 3 episode of Hawaii Five-0 on DVD. And now, Burke's Law is on TV. And, later I may watch some classic TV over the internet, from MSN TV, HULU, AOL, CBS, etc. So, being a big TV fan, I'm all for Verizon adding the HD and SD channels we've requested.
Yes, I understand that when some people get an HD set, they very seldom watch anything that's not HD, not even SD-only programs that they previously loved to watch.
That's why I'm glad there's something for everyone who enjoys TV, no matter how they enjoy it. Mark F. | |
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