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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
reply to roc5955
Re: Not a concern yet

They are giving "Free" boxes. That is what the Coupons are for.

qworster

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said by jc100 See Profile :

I am one of those unlucky people with rabbit ears. I am not disinterested but nor do I feel like being forced to shell out money on a converter. I am still waiting until close to the date to see what those boxes run come 2009. I have put in my order for the coupon so we shall see what happens anyway. On a side note, I can't say I enjoy rabbit ears but the same token, I don't know if I really enjoy having to buy a box to receive a signal. I guess it will depend if this box eliminates the headache of moving the ears around for a signal . I havent done much research into how these boxes work yet.
GET THE BOX! You wind up getting MANY more channels. Here in Hollywood with nothing but a two foot piece of Cat 5 wire as an antenna, I get over 50 channels! Why? because most all TV stations broadcast digital on multiple channels. For example the ION affiliate here (channel 30) broadcasts children's programming (Qubo) 24/7 on their 30-2 channel. My kids LOVE it!


roc5955
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Rosendale, NY
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reply to jc100
said by jc100 See Profile :

Exactly. The FCC owns the signals. It's the FCC, NOT THE STATIONS, who opted to impose this change. It was not voluntary. The FCC MANDATED this to occur in order to continue to use THEIR AIRWAYS.
The FCC owns NOTHING. The airwaves belong to WE THE PEOPLE! In the last 28 years, our country has been for sale to the highest bidder and is becoming one of us the corporations, whereas before 1980, it was WE THE PEOPLE.
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"Understanding is a three-edged sword."

jc100

join:2002-04-10

reply to wierdo
You seem to have failed at every step of your logic. The FCC is publicly funded and owns the airways. Said airways are PUBLIC PROPERTY. Yet, the FCC has FORCED private businesses to switch over. This wasn't a voluntary switch over. While we DO NOT own the stations, WE THE PUBLIC own the airways in which they use. Being the FCC (PUBLIC ENTITY) is forcing said stations (PRIVATE) to switch, we should be given the ability to get our stations at no cost. After all, I don't recall the stations wanting to do it? I recall the FCC (PUBLICLY OWNED) forcing this agenda.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

reply to djrobx
So do the people who make comments like yours. I bet you don't see the rationale of how the FCC owns these airways and are FORCIBLY making stations switch. This wasn't a voluntary switch either. The FCC being public funded owns said public airways. YET, it is mandating stations change over. So yes, MY POINT STANDS.

jc100

join:2002-04-10
reply to roc5955
Exactly. The FCC owns the signals. It's the FCC, NOT THE STATIONS, who opted to impose this change. It was not voluntary. The FCC MANDATED this to occur in order to continue to use THEIR AIRWAYS.


koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK
reply to anon439828
Nope, you have to follow the FCC regulations on power output.
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Now typed solely on DSK (Dvorak Simplified Keyboard).


anon439828

@in.us
reply to yolarry
Its a public spectrum that everyone can use isnt it... you have the right to amplify your signal as you see fit... There are kits out there to do this...


yolarry

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reply to roc5955
said by roc5955 See Profile :

Here Here!
I concur. The airwaves are PUBLIC property, and should they change the method of delivery, they should either revert back to analog, or give everyone free converter boxes for each and every television they possess. WE THE PEOPLE pay the FCC to look out for OUR interests, NOT those of the corporate elite.
and FCC should give us the freedom to boost our wi-fi higher then ever.

travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM

reply to jc100
said by jc100 See Profile :

I am still waiting until close to the date to see what those boxes run come 2009. I have put in my order for the coupon so we shall see what happens anyway.
You do understand that the coupons are time limited, right? They expire 90 days after being issued, so if you ordered them now you will need to use them by August...

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

reply to flyingjoey
said by flyingjoey See Profile :

Either upgrade or get left behind... Simple as that!

I am just wondering... if the people that are still using rabbit ears also walk around with a club, live in cages and hunt their food.
No. Many people in rural areas get TV from antennas (but often rooftop antennas and not rabbit ears) because that's the only way they can receive local stations. Yes, satellite is available, but stations from all markets aren't carried, and, in many cases, because of the way markets are defined, people can't subscribe to receive local stations via satellite that they can get just fine over the air. And if you want any kind of local programming such as news, sports, or weather, you have to tune in to a local station. People in these rural areas will often subscribe to satellite for cable channels and use an antenna to receive local stations. And you'd be surprised at how many you can sometimes get. My parents lived in an area between three markets, and they could get 14 channels using a rooftop antenna. They broke down like this:

2 ABC
3 CBS
2 NBC
2 PBS
2 Fox
2 My Network TV
1 TBN

And with digital, add another Fox station, since one of the ABC stations airs Fox on one of its digital subchannels.

For a sports fan, it was great because the stations often carried different games from their parent networks, so you could often choose between quite a few college and pro games on the weekends.


en102
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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reply to djrobx
Yeah - I don't have ABC or FOX
I do get a lot though... I just put the rabbit ears at a 'good' spot on my roof, and hit 26 OTA
Also to note: antenna direction is VERY specific (ie. 99 degrees here) - make note of the direction from antennaweb.org, also, use a GOOD antenna - do not try the RCA indoor/outdoor - POS.
A slight turn in position will lose many channels.

Interestingly enough, I get analog ABC very good, buy no ABC HD.

2.1 KCBS
4.1 KNBC
4.2 Weather (local)
4.4 RawNews
5.1 KLTA
9.1 KCAL9
30.1 ION
30.2 QUBO
30.3 ION LIFE
30.4 WORSHIP
34.1 KMEX
44.1 KXLA
44.2 KVMD
50.1 KOCE
50.2 KOCE
50.3 DAYS
50.4 KOCE
54.1 KAZA
56.1 KDOC
56.2 KDOC
56.3 BVM
57.1 KJLA
57.2 KMVD
57.4 LATV

I've also had 62.1 and 62.2.
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Canada = Hollywood North


roc5955
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join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to jc100
Here Here!
I concur. The airwaves are PUBLIC property, and should they change the method of delivery, they should either revert back to analog, or give everyone free converter boxes for each and every television they possess. WE THE PEOPLE pay the FCC to look out for OUR interests, NOT those of the corporate elite.
--
"Understanding is a three-edged sword."


djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
reply to jc100
The luddites that frequent a site dedicated to an emerging technology continue to fascinate me.

-- Rob


djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
reply to en102
Ooh you're in a lucky "hot" spot of Valencia. I can't get one channel!

Beware before you cancel DirecTV - ABC's signal is hit and miss.

-- Rob

Rocketbob

join:2006-06-08
Stillman Valley, IL
reply to jc100

The coupons are only good for 90 days. I purchased a box and the digital signal provides a better picture overall. No need
to adjust the rabbit ears.

flyingjoey

join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
reply to jc100
Either upgrade or get left behind... Simple as that!

I am just wondering... if the people that are still using rabbit ears also walk around with a club, live in cages and hunt their food.


IDJK

@embarqhsd.net
reply to jc100
Boy JC100 you are going to be pissed when you get your coupon and find that it expires in 90 days from ship date- so you can't wait too long to buy.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to jc100
said by jc100 See Profile :

I just think its crap everyone has to go out and get this junk.
Nobody is forcing your to "go out and get this junk". You can choose not to spend 2 minutes requesting a coupon and $9 to purchase a converter.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to jc100
said by jc100 See Profile :

Hah stop future tax hikes.
I didn't say stop, I said minimize.
said by jc100 See Profile :

Back to the topic, the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either.
The taxpayers don't fund the "public airways". However, we have been funding the FCC since 1934 so by that argument the Fed should have purchased your original television. BTW, this isn't the first spectrum auction by the FCC.
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