Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | Re: Not a concern yet Then, get the $40 coupon, and get the ATSC STB. Or get a new TV set. | |
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 jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | Re: Not a concern yet Yes man, get get get. Takes money to buy things and some of us aren't independently wealthy or have the means to go and waste money on extras. I'll just wait and see if the box goes down in price. I imagine right now that 40 dollar coupon is only a partial cost of the box. Therefore, hopefully in a year itll be cheaper.
As per your undue response (which I'm sure will follow) you are lucky you get that coupon to begin with, I've got a nice retort. I'll glad take the money our government made from selling off the spectrum at the tax payers expense. After all, we fund the FCC and public airways via our dollars. Therefore, the fact they sold this off at the cost of tax payers means that money SHOULD go back to us to fix what they broke =). | |
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join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Not a concern yet From what I have seen the $40 coupon would make the box around $9 or so. I don't see it going much cheaper than that.
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join:2002-04-10
| Re: Not a concern yet Not horrible but for once I think this profit made off the spectrum should be used to cover the full cost of the boxes. I am not looking for a handout but the government eats our tax dollars and made money here at our expense. Since they made this a problem, this time it's their job to use said profits to remedy it for those affected. I rarely think this is the case but this time around, I actually believe it to be true. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Not a concern yet Did the government purchase your current television? Unless you're leeching off of the welfare system, no it didn't. TV is for entertainment and isn't a right of anyone. If you want to continue watching OTA broadcasts from full power transmitters after Feb, buy converter, upgrade to a new TV, subscribe to cable/satellite, or pick up a book from the local library for free and enjoy life. | |
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join:2002-04-10 | Re: Not a concern yet No they didnt purchase but they damn well used my tax dollars to fund the system in which they are selling and now made a profit from..... | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Not a concern yet I'm not sure what "system" you're referring to. The system that manages the precious finite spectrum? The system that will benefit from the increase money into the treasury's coffers therefore minimizing your future tax hikes? The emergency response system that will benefit from infrastructure build out? My tax dollars get used for numerous socialist programs that are far more of a sieve than that of the FCC. Of all of the things to complain about, increased revenue, advancement in technology, and the potential for nationwide broadband that everyone around here drools over, isn't very high on the list, IMO. | |
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join:2002-04-10
| Re: Not a concern yet Hah stop future tax hikes. Classic. That's along the same lines of Expecting this administration not to add another trillion to the national deficit before departure. Tax hikes = pay for wasteful spending. Tax rebates, while giving us more money, come at the expense of a devalued dollar. Someone still has to foot the bill. Republicans borrow, borrow, borrow to get it and put the dollar in its current circumstance. Democrats tax to pay for their wasteful misfortunes. Either way, that money added to the treasury has long since been spent. It probably went to buy a few armored cars for that quagmire known as Iraq that has stagnated into it's fifth year... Back to the topic, the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. | |
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join:2006-10-09
Providence, RI
| Re: Not a concern yet Quit whining dude. You should be happy you even get a $40 coupon. Seriously it isn't that big of a deal. If you can't afford a $9 box then you should be worried about other things besides tv. And no, this isn't one of those "It's just the principal..." situations sorry. | |
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join:2002-04-10
| Re: Not a concern yet I can afford 9 dollars. I just think its crap everyone has to go out and get this junk. Now if it was 30 or 40 dollars, I would pass for a while. However, I'm sure I can live with 9. My sentiment still stands, like it or not. The profited and said profit should be returned to tax payers.. O that's right, it isn't our money anymore once they collect it.. (sarcasm). | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Not a concern yet said by jc100  :I just think its crap everyone has to go out and get this junk. Nobody is forcing your to "go out and get this junk". You can choose not to spend 2 minutes requesting a coupon and $9 to purchase a converter. | |
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@embarqhsd.net | Boy JC100 you are going to be pissed when you get your coupon and find that it expires in 90 days from ship date- so you can't wait too long to buy. | |
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join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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| said by jc100 :the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. You seem to misunderstand. Aside from a few public television networks (usually PBS affiliated), your tax dollars haven't paid for the capital outlays to set up television stations. The only thing your tax dollars were used for was to coordinate the frequency assignments. IOW, the stations aren't hanging from the government teat like so many other industries from whom we get absolutely nothing.
The government is not funding the transition for these stations, even ones with small budgets who can hardly afford to switch to digital. Should the government be paying the transition costs for the stations? I sure don't think so. I think the coupons are more than generous.
In essence, what I'm saying boils down to "funded no, owned yes." Epic fail on your part, really.
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join:2002-04-10
| Re: Not a concern yet You seem to have failed at every step of your logic. The FCC is publicly funded and owns the airways. Said airways are PUBLIC PROPERTY. Yet, the FCC has FORCED private businesses to switch over. This wasn't a voluntary switch over. While we DO NOT own the stations, WE THE PUBLIC own the airways in which they use. Being the FCC (PUBLIC ENTITY) is forcing said stations (PRIVATE) to switch, we should be given the ability to get our stations at no cost. After all, I don't recall the stations wanting to do it? I recall the FCC (PUBLICLY OWNED) forcing this agenda. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by jc100 :Hah stop future tax hikes. I didn't say stop, I said minimize.said by jc100 :Back to the topic, the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. The taxpayers don't fund the "public airways". However, we have been funding the FCC since 1934 so by that argument the Fed should have purchased your original television. BTW, this isn't the first spectrum auction by the FCC. | |
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| | hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | the box costs roughly $40 after taxes on the box at Best Buy. Thats the cheapest with coupon.
You also only have 90 days to use the coupon after that you lose it and can't get a new one. | |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| said by jc100 :Yes man, get get get. Takes money to buy things and some of us aren't independently wealthy or have the means to go and waste money on extras. I'll just wait and see if the box goes down in price. I imagine right now that 40 dollar coupon is only a partial cost of the box. Therefore, hopefully in a year itll be cheaper. The Magnavox converter is $49.95 before tax at Wal*Mart. Using the government coupon it wound up costing me about $11. It works like a charm.
I suspect as we get closer to February 17, 2009, they will get cheaper but I would not expect to see less than $29.95.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | Re: Not a concern yet Ooh you're in a lucky "hot" spot of Valencia. I can't get one channel!
Beware before you cancel DirecTV - ABC's signal is hit and miss.
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koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | The only problem with this is that the coupon will expire 90 days after mailing.
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| Re: Not a concern yet The Echostar boxes due out this summer will be $40.
If your coupon expires I'm sure a neighbor or relative won't mind getting them for you.
OTA Digital TV is a wonderful thing. I'm still shocked that out in the boonies you can throw up a simple antenna and pick up a bunch of SD and HD channels for free on the HDTV set.
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | WalMart has them for $39.99. Free with the coupon.  | |
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roc5955
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join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| Here Here!
I concur. The airwaves are PUBLIC property, and should they change the method of delivery, they should either revert back to analog, or give everyone free converter boxes for each and every television they possess. WE THE PEOPLE pay the FCC to look out for OUR interests, NOT those of the corporate elite.
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yolarry
join:2007-12-29
Creston, WV
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| Re: Not a concern yet said by roc5955 :Here Here! I concur. The airwaves are PUBLIC property, and should they change the method of delivery, they should either revert back to analog, or give everyone free converter boxes for each and every television they possess. WE THE PEOPLE pay the FCC to look out for OUR interests, NOT those of the corporate elite. and FCC should give us the freedom to boost our wi-fi higher then ever. | |
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@in.us | Re: Not a concern yet Its a public spectrum that everyone can use isnt it... you have the right to amplify your signal as you see fit... There are kits out there to do this... | |
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koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | Re: Not a concern yet Nope, you have to follow the FCC regulations on power output.
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join:2002-04-10 | Exactly. The FCC owns the signals. It's the FCC, NOT THE STATIONS, who opted to impose this change. It was not voluntary. The FCC MANDATED this to occur in order to continue to use THEIR AIRWAYS. | |
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roc5955
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join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Not a concern yet said by jc100 :Exactly. The FCC owns the signals. It's the FCC, NOT THE STATIONS, who opted to impose this change. It was not voluntary. The FCC MANDATED this to occur in order to continue to use THEIR AIRWAYS. The FCC owns NOTHING. The airwaves belong to WE THE PEOPLE! In the last 28 years, our country has been for sale to the highest bidder and is becoming one of us the corporations, whereas before 1980, it was WE THE PEOPLE.
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | They are giving "Free" boxes. That is what the Coupons are for. | |
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