Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 in Wireless Service Providers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20432645 en Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:15:30 EDT Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:15:30 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460851 nomaad : Man... I just bought nine RB333's. Would have been a nice savings to get a few of the RB433's. Would have been nice to have gotten at least one to deploy for the purposes of comparison.

Ah well. By the time I am ready for more RB's, maybe the 533 will be out and it will cost $39.95 and it will have a Cray supercomputer at its core.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460851 Sat, 10 May 2008 10:02:26 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20458413 LLigetfa : They have a list of vendors.
»www.pcengines.ch/order.php]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20458413 Fri, 09 May 2008 17:57:12 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20457943 mtroup : it's only 6x6 so it shouldn't be too hard to find one that it fits in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20457943 Fri, 09 May 2008 16:13:04 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20457097 davebc : I like the looks of the alix6b2 »www.pcengines.ch/alix6b2.htm

Where would someone get an enclosure for it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20457097 Fri, 09 May 2008 13:23:14 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20449863 Wimaks : Just give a shoot to Pascal pdornier at pcengines (dot)ch
with your questions,he will reply as soon as he gots the email.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20449863 Thu, 08 May 2008 03:05:02 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20448646 cmaenginsb :
said by jober See Profile :

said by VariableARK See Profile :

Those ALIX boards look awesome, does anyone know whether they are ever going to support 802.3af?

Are there any indoor cases for those that support a PCI card on a riser?
What OS are you going to run on that board?
ABM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20448646 Wed, 07 May 2008 21:54:59 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20448526 jober :
said by VariableARK See Profile :

Those ALIX boards look awesome, does anyone know whether they are ever going to support 802.3af?

Are there any indoor cases for those that support a PCI card on a riser?
What OS are you going to run on that board?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20448526 Wed, 07 May 2008 21:30:48 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20446229 VariableARK : Those ALIX boards look awesome, does anyone know whether they are ever going to support 802.3af?

Are there any indoor cases for those that support a PCI card on a riser?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20446229 Wed, 07 May 2008 14:36:30 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20444520 jober : You want it faster!

»RouterBoard 433AH]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20444520 Wed, 07 May 2008 09:26:26 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20437760 cmaenginsb :
said by High Power See Profile :

Yes, it is slower.

Use Mikrotik BTest to run small packet UDP test through two boards and you'll see the difference.

Actually odd thing is that people would believe the hype that MIPS based system with lower clock could be faster than PPC based one. But hey, if MT people are telling it is, then it must be, right?

I don't have any to test because I have held off buying any because something was fishy. I can say this, if the chips include some kind of specific network acceleration it is feasible that a slower processor could out perform as faster one in the specific tasks it is accelerated for. Since Mikrotik hasn't posted any data for the boards, I will reserve judgement for the future.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20437760 Tue, 06 May 2008 00:11:10 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20434527 High Power : Yes, it is slower.

Use Mikrotik BTest to run small packet UDP test through two boards and you'll see the difference.

Actually odd thing is that people would believe the hype that MIPS based system with lower clock could be faster than PPC based one. But hey, if MT people are telling it is, then it must be, right?
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20434527 Mon, 05 May 2008 13:27:31 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433997 Inssomniak :
said by lutful See Profile :

By contrast, the original X86-based PC Engines WRAP boards finally went away after AMD discontinued the chip. I think those may be the only boards that could run the most firmware options - Mikrotik, Wili, Ikarus, Star-OS, etc. I hope the new faster ALIX X86 boards (which have same footprint option as WRAP) will also be tested by all firmware vendors.
I have a new alix 500mhz board sitting on my desk here, nice with 2 PCI slots, ran mikrotik just fine, but I tried with 2 different mini pci radio cards and it fell flat on its face once you enabled them (power problems). I learned afterwards this is a well documented problem :( ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433997 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:38:36 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433909 cmaenginsb :
said by High Power See Profile :

That's what I am saying, it's not faster. It's much slower.
So a 300 Mhz Atheros is much slower than a 333Mhz power pc? I find that odd given that the design of the Atheros has shown that it is more powerful than other 400 Mhz designs currently in use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20433909 Mon, 05 May 2008 11:20:45 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432823 High Power : That's what I am saying, it's not faster. It's much slower.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432823 Mon, 05 May 2008 02:16:16 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432645 cmaenginsb :
said by High Power See Profile :

If this is the same processor that is used in RB411 then also RB411 should be faster than RB333.

Is that so? I somehow don't see that.

But you know, marketing is a great thing.
According to their spec sheet the RB411 CPE and RB433 high performance AP use the exact same 300 Mhz atheros processor. This means that yes the RB411 is faster than the RB333 which is probably why they discontinued it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20432645 Mon, 05 May 2008 00:55:50 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20430334 High Power : If this is the same processor that is used in RB411 then also RB411 should be faster than RB333.

Is that so? I somehow don't see that.

But you know, marketing is a great thing. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20430334 Sun, 04 May 2008 14:41:13 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20429962 Wimaks : I am the fan of the alix series from Pc Engines.
More performance with higher horsepower like 500mhz with 256Mb memory embeeded 2 mpci + 2Lan +Cf slot with lots of supported software even better priced like 130$.
I definately will use the Alix with whatever soft init.

Thanks Pascal..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20429962 Sun, 04 May 2008 12:45:56 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407804 lutful :
said by Inssomniak See Profile :

I was just getting used to the rb333, it practically just came out!
There has been a lot of churn in Mikrotik hardware since the X86-based RB200 in 2003.

By contrast, the original X86-based PC Engines WRAP boards finally went away after AMD discontinued the chip. I think those may be the only boards that could run the most firmware options - Mikrotik, Wili, Ikarus, Star-OS, etc. I hope the new faster ALIX X86 boards (which have same footprint option as WRAP) will also be tested by all firmware vendors.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407804 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:27:27 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407356 cmaenginsb : I don't get it, their small scale cpe/ap and their high performance ap have the same processor and memory?
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CCNA, Comtrain Certified Tower Climber]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407356 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:53:22 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407239 Inssomniak : I was just getting used to the rb333, it practically just came out!

Of course Im open to cheaper and faster!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20407239 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:29:04 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20406937 tx_tower : i agree while im a fan of the rb333, more horsepower @ a lower price is a change in the right direction]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20406937 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:27:28 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20404702 jober : I like the way they are going, the boards keep getting faster at a lower price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20404702 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:02:31 EDT Re: another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20404244 Inssomniak : I do like Mikrotik/Routerboard stuff

But holy cow its hard to keep up with their product line!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20404244 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:25:19 EDT another Mikrotik Board and the end of the RB333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20402693 jober : RB/333 is EOL. RB/333 is replaced by RB/433- they have same form factor and layout of
interfaces, so they will fit in same enclosures. RB/433 has powerful
Atheros CPU, that's about the same speed as RB/333. Attached is RB/433
brochure.
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