jblake
join:2003-06-28
Birmingham, AL
| reply to iLive4Apple
Re: When are we going to get att.net mail?
they will eventually merge the email systems and give new users @att.net addresses, however they will never (at least for a very very very very long time) force users to drop their old domains. The issues that would cause would be very troublesome, to say the least. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
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May 5th, @08:34PM
| said by jblake  :they will eventually merge the email systems... To some extent, that has already happened. All 'bellsouth.net' email is handled by AT&T Worldnet Services mail hosts. All web mail log in for the legacy (unmigrated) SBC email domains has been moved to the same AT&T Worldnet web mail servers that handle 'att.net' and 'bellsouth.net' email.
...and give new users @att.net addresses...
Reportedly, new 'at&t Yahoo! HSI' subscribers, who follow the default account activation steps, are still getting 'sbcglobal.net' email addresses.
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wolfsmane
join:2003-05-01
Aiken, SC |
why would it matter if it's bellsouth.net or att.net? |
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NetFixer
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join:2004-06-24
Murfreesboro, TN
·AT&T Southeast
 ·Vonage
 ·Cingular Wireless
·AT&T CallVantage
 ·Comcast
| said by wolfsmane :why would it matter if it's bellsouth.net or att.net? The biggest advantage for some people is that att.net is shorter and is less likely to be misspelled than bellsouth.net? 
Other than that if the same servers are handling the email it's like the great bard said, "What's in a name?".
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mikes60
A View From Paradise
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to wolfsmane
said by wolfsmane :why would it matter if it's bellsouth.net or att.net? It doesn't. But there will always some people who need to complain about something.
The real nuisance would be if old BellSouth people had to change to ATT. For some people, that would be a lot of work.
I've used my own domain for years, so I never have to deal with this.
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Old_Grouch
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join:2004-05-26
Greenwood, IN
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·AT&T Midwest
| said by mikes60 :said by wolfsmane :why would it matter if it's bellsouth.net or att.net? It doesn't. But there will always some people who need to complain about something. Actually, there are some that would say it does matter.
I'd rather have my name associated with ameritech.net instead of sbc or at&t or any other ________ they adopt.
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Considering that all of the gateway mail servers for the nine legacy SBC domains are under the 'prodigy.net' domain, and, apparently, managed by AT&T Internet Services (ATTIS; formerly SBCIS), it really doesn't matter.
OTOH, having one of the legacy domains in your email address does mark one as having the right to be an "Old_Grouch"!
I do like my 'pacbell.net' domain, as well. Maybe I should adopt the nym, "Ol' Sourdough".
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mikes60
A View From Paradise
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to Old_Grouch
said by Old_Grouch :said by mikes60 :said by wolfsmane :why would it matter if it's bellsouth.net or att.net? It doesn't. But there will always some people who need to complain about something. Actually, there are some that would say it does matter. I'd rather have my name associated with ameritech.net instead of sbc or at&t or any other ________ they adopt. I'll go you one better. I don't use AT&T/BellSouth email at all. For about $12.00 a year I have my own domain managed by a company that knows how to manage email.
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| For $12/year you're on a shared host? We got away from shared hosting solutions because they all have the same outgoing email server. This becomes a problem when they over sell their server and mr spamboy decides to start up and the server gets blacklisted.
VPS costs more, but works much better. |
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mikes60
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by Neyland85 :For $12/year you're on a shared host? We got away from shared hosting solutions because they all have the same outgoing email server. This becomes a problem when they over sell their server and mr spamboy decides to start up and the server gets blacklisted. VPS costs more, but works much better. No arguement there. But, for my personal purposes, not business, I haven't had one problem in over a year.
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| said by mikes60 :said by Neyland85 :For $12/year you're on a shared host? We got away from shared hosting solutions because they all have the same outgoing email server. This becomes a problem when they over sell their server and mr spamboy decides to start up and the server gets blacklisted. VPS costs more, but works much better. No arguement there. But, for my personal purposes, not business, I haven't had one problem in over a year. Great deal then! Of course with DSL it's not as big of a deal as you have to send out via Bellsouth/ATT unless you're using a web based client. |
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mikes60
A View From Paradise
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by Neyland85 :said by mikes60 :said by Neyland85 :For $12/year you're on a shared host? We got away from shared hosting solutions because they all have the same outgoing email server. This becomes a problem when they over sell their server and mr spamboy decides to start up and the server gets blacklisted. VPS costs more, but works much better. No arguement there. But, for my personal purposes, not business, I haven't had one problem in over a year. Great deal then! Of course with DSL it's not as big of a deal as you have to send out via Bellsouth/ATT unless you're using a web based client. No, my email provider, as with many others, uses port 587. Everything goes right out thru Outlook.
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Neyland85
said by Neyland85 :Great deal then! Of course with DSL it's not as big of a deal as you have to send out via Bellsouth/ATT unless you're using a web based client. As mikes60 points out, any mail hosting provider worth the money you pay them should accept SMTP message submission on a port other than port 25. Per RFC 2821, port 25 was originally designate for mail transfer; but another RFC reserves another port for SMTP message submission. Read RFC 2476.
I have not had to use port 25 for message submission since 'yahoo.co.jp' set up on port 587.
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CyberRage
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-21
Jasper, AL
| reply to Neyland85
And there is port 465 -- secure SMTP
port 993 -- IMAP4 over SSL
and port 995 -- secure POP3
Secure should be used with a grain of salt, of course. I've used 585, 465, 995 with no problems. I've settled on 465. No particular reason.
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by CyberRage :And there is port 465 -- secure SMTP Only if the E-mail service provider offers it. At one time, just after the servers for 'yahoo.com' and 'yahoo.com.au' switched over to using port 465, 'yahoo.co.jp' was still only accessible through port 587 (that has changed since then). The last time I checked, neither 'smtp.aim.com', nor 'smtp.aol.com', nor 'smtp.gmx.net' offered access through port 465.
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CyberRage
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-21
Jasper, AL
| Like Mike, I pay a fee for my email to be handled off AT&T's network. When I signed up port 465 wasn't open but a quick request resulted it that port being opened the same day. No complaints so far. From a notice I recieved two days ago I see that I've been purchased by a data center owner so I may be asking Mike who he uses if things go downhill. It's certainly been better than Bellsouth's email service, I don't know about AT&T servers. I haven't tried them.
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