pp03
join:2002-06-13
Minneapolis, MN
| Is this really cheating?
So I'm finishing up my finals, my blood pressure is at like 170/120(really) and I finally hit some relief...but I feel bad about it.
Without going into too much detail. I'm busting out these investigations into companies...long and drawn out things that I have put off to the last minute.
Well, to get to the point, the syllabus has this crap on it about academic integrity. So the professor has this URL listed with these templates we have to fill in, in for many aspects of it...in my boredom I decided to mess around with the URL's (they are those tricky »www.lala.com/8984234/234324243-2···whatever, with no rhyme or reason) anyways I changed one number and my download became the teachers edition of the templates with all the numbers and information filled in.
God that feels good, I just cut my work load by about a week...but will honesty get the best of me 
Is it really cheating? I mean technically they are just doing all the sourcing for me !!!!!! Ahhhhhh!
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TOPDAWG
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Midland, ON | What kind of answers is it? Like A,B? If it is fork it go ahead and do it. Just make sure you look over the ?'s and get a few wrong that are the harder ones. |
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DJMADfx
join:2002-02-27
Bellmore, NY
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Use the found answers, but make it a point to teach yourself the material so you are not cheating yourself. You just won't have the pressure of "what if I failed". If you can prove to yourself that you know the material you will feel better about the situation. If you have high blood pressure already, nothing is worth worsening your health over.
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Alcohol
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Neshanic Station, NJ | reply to pp03
Does it matter if it's cheating or not? It's saving you a week of work.
If you're worried about ethics then don't use it, it's simple. |
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pp03
join:2002-06-13
Minneapolis, MN
| LOL, yeah screw ethics.
Nah it is not A-B-C, it is charts and the evaluation of companies vs their peers, liquidity, all that good stuff.
Oh trust me, I'm not cheating myself out of the material...it's a tie it together course.
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no_one
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| said by pp03  :LOL, yeah screw ethics. Nah it is not A-B-C, it is charts and the evaluation of companies vs their peers, liquidity, all that good stuff. Oh trust me, I'm not cheating myself out of the material...it's a tie it together course. I have known text book answers to be wrong. Also depends on how the professor grades and how much they look at answers. Only you know the professor.
Plus are these real companies or fake companies put together for the text book. If real does the professor want current answers or answers for a set year. |
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marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO | reply to pp03
Double check the professor's answers. It may just be test data to check out the system.
Or, that may not be the teacher's edition, it may be someone else's answers. |
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DataDoc
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Greenville, NC | reply to pp03
How do you know it's not a honeypot? |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
| said by DataDoc :How do you know it's not a honeypot? just put a few wrong answers to be sure
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AdamB
join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH | reply to pp03
Most likely if you copied it, it would be considered cheating. You should reword everything if you are going to use the information. My university is pretty strict about academic integrity, they don't fool around. |
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koolman2
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Anchorage, AK | reply to pp03
Tell the professor what you found and how, then he'll change the test and you won't have to worry.
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no_one
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You want a bad answer. Then yes it is cheating. Period. You knew changing digits on lala or whatever may bring a good outcome. You where not just doing research but as lottery ticket. So f u. Others need to do the research not just a gimme.
Put it this way i was once a tattle tell. Some were getting good grades always. Me also. Then one let me in on a secret of a TA giving the answers to some but not all. Those above me always. There where some getting grades worse than me not in on it. But because of the artificial curve well f them. Me I still had an A on work. But a lower A plus if I remember a B in one class because of the curve.
Still you not the same just put in random numbers like a lottery. Maybe you will become a big ceo sell the US out to china leave the US in ruins and move to an overseas mansion. Good for you. |
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RangerTX
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA | reply to pp03
It's cheating without giving reference to the author. With that being said, go for it and use it, but make sure to reword the answers so it's not recognized.
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Tzale
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said by pp03 :So I'm finishing up my finals, my blood pressure is at like 170/120(really) and I finally hit some relief...but I feel bad about it. Without going into too much detail. I'm busting out these investigations into companies...long and drawn out things that I have put off to the last minute. Well, to get to the point, the syllabus has this crap on it about academic integrity. So the professor has this URL listed with these templates we have to fill in, in for many aspects of it...in my boredom I decided to mess around with the URL's (they are those tricky » www.lala.com/8984234/234324243-2···whatever, with no rhyme or reason) anyways I changed one number and my download became the teachers edition of the templates with all the numbers and information filled in. God that feels good, I just cut my work load by about a week...but will honesty get the best of me Is it really cheating? I mean technically they are just doing all the sourcing for me !!!!!! Ahhhhhh! This is up to you. You shouldn't have to ask us this since it is obvious that it IS cheating.... I know most colleges / universities will kick students out of the school or suspend students for a semester or two if they find you plagiarizing work. It isn't worth it... I'd use it as a reference, but just make sure you don't get caught whatever you do... Ethics is one thing.... Losing years of work on a degree due to a stupid move is another..
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joako
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Gainesville, FL | reply to pp03
Actually do the work. Refer to the answers if you get stuck and feel your blood pressure rising. Is it cheating if you get the answers from the book?
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said by pp03 :Well, to get to the point, the syllabus has this crap on it about academic integrity. So the professor has this URL listed with these templates we have to fill in, in for many aspects of it...in my boredom I decided to mess around with the URL's (they are those tricky » www.lala.com/8984234/234324243-2···whatever, with no rhyme or reason) anyways I changed one number and my download became the teachers edition of the templates with all the numbers and information filled in. God that feels good, I just cut my work load by about a week...but will honesty get the best of me Is it really cheating? I mean technically they are just doing all the sourcing for me !!!!!! Ahhhhhh! I'm amused in one way, disgusted in another way. You asked the question, when you already knew the answer. There's a big difference between knowing how to do something and being able to do it. So, yes, it is cheating. You are cheating yourself.
The fact that there are so many "it's not cheating" comments in here says a lot about the current state of higher education.
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nemo1966
join:2005-11-15
England
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It doesn't matter if its cheating... use it. Everyone cheats these days, it's become a way of life.
Companies, Politicians, Governments, local councils, Police... they all do it, so why not you?
Our ruling bodies are showing us by example, cheating and lying to get a head is OK!!!
The best things in life are not things.
LOL what complete claptrap...... you can't do anything today without money.... money is EVERYTHING!
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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I think if the OP is as worried as he/she seems they already know their answer. |
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pp03
join:2002-06-13
Minneapolis, MN
| We don't always ask questions seeking definitive answers, sometimes we just want opinions.
I've further looked over everything and they are identical. Either way if I do them on my own or with what is provided they are only a means for deriving an answer, not the answer itself.
In essence, the work is collecting data -- not learning anything. What the data produces is what you effectively base your answers off of, using the tables and charts you produce as evidence.
Sadly if I do them myself or use the data provided it will look 100% the same, it is structured in that way. So I'll just say I'm doing it myself
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MetroT1
join:2006-02-08
Snellville, GA
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You can try and justify it anyway that you want. However, the bottome line is this:
You have access to material that you weren't supposed to see. It is material that other students aren't supposed to have either. Therefore, you have an unfair advantage to completing an assignment and it *IS* cheating.
I'm ashamed that you've received replies such as "everyone else does it so do it." It just goes to show you the problems with this country. People just don't behave ethically or morally. It is all about what will help *them* get ahead in life. |
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