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factchecker

@cox.net

reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: FAP

said by fAcEtIOUs:

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.
I doubt that most consumers are going to fork over the $400 it costs for a low end Cisco router that keeps accurate bit counts in SNMP. (Yes, we all know there are cheaper routers with SNMP, but reliability of that data is always suspect for a number of reasons - some hardware, most firmware limitations)


fAcEtIOUs
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reply to Boogeyman

said by Boogeyman:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Boogeyman:

I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.
Use the free "NetLimiter 2 Monitor". It can distinguish between internet and intranet traffic. Just install on each PC.

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.

And best would be an ISP based system that was queryable from a web page.
Thats the other problem, I have my Wii connected.

Do you know off hand which routers have that capability through firmware?
Some Linksys and other models running DD-WRT freeware firmware support traffic data collection.
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Su···_Devices
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RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Sounds like you need to lease a DS-x circuit. Pick the capacity and the business account "extras" that you want...of course you need to be willing to pay for them.
No I do not. What I am stating is that if the only difference between a "Residential" Account and a so-called "Business" Account is the cost then it is not a TRUE Business Class Account but just a way of charging extra money for no benefit to the user except as protection money to fend off the ISP Goons. What is the extra money supposed to be being charged for and what is the difference in the two accounts?

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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None, now bend over.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

reply to RARPSL
There are differences between every business and residential account that I've looked at. Are you assuming that there isn't?



antdude
A Ninja Ant
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join:2001-03-25
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reply to dvd536
Fap? I am thinking of the other definition (sewer/dirty) that young people are thinking.



wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

reply to RARPSL

said by RARPSL:

said by openbox9:

Sounds like you need to lease a DS-x circuit. Pick the capacity and the business account "extras" that you want...of course you need to be willing to pay for them.
No I do not. What I am stating is that if the only difference between a "Residential" Account and a so-called "Business" Account is the cost then it is not a TRUE Business Class Account but just a way of charging extra money for no benefit to the user except as protection money to fend off the ISP Goons. What is the extra money supposed to be being charged for and what is the difference in the two accounts?
I am a bit confused here. Are you questioning if there is a difference between a business account and a residential account?? If so, feel free to go to any providers website and peruse the details yourself. They all very clearly spell out the differences, which generally include (depending on provider of course) but are not limited to:

1) Static IP
2) Ability to run servers without violating the TOS
3) Higher download/upload
4) "Priority" customer service
5) No caps

Some even come with SLA's. I suggest you read a little more about business class products before you comment further. I can also assure you the extra money paid has nothing to do with "protection money" for the "ISP Goons", whatever that even means.
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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reply to a333

said by a333:

IPTV is just one of cable/satellite's problems. Do you HONESTLY think that IP-based content delivery will always remain at bay?
For the foreseeable future, absolutely. Assuming a modest 1mbps stream for IPTV, that means that to broadcast a show like American Idol would require 37,000,000mbps (37 TERAbit!) of bandwidth at the headend. That's only for a single show!

Unicast IP streams will never scale to replace standard broadcast/satellite/cable TV.


badFAP

@wildblue.net

reply to TheMG
The problem, as I see it, is that once the company starts, things only get worse. Satellite internet FAPs are in the range 7.5 to 15 GB/mo or 200 MB/day (download, uploads are typically 1/3 of the download limits) depending on which service you use. The only difference between accounts is the price and the download limit. Cell phones use similar limits simply to make more money; my family has to pay the extra $20/mo because we typically use 750 minutes between our three phones but the cutoff is 700. In summary, I predict that if the cable companies implement FAPs, they will not be 500 GB, they will be 20 GB for the first tier, 50 GB for an extra $20/mo 100 GB for an extra $50/mo; and we will have no choice but to either stop using YouTube etc or pay through our noses.


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