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BF69
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Camden, TN

reply to MrSpock29

Re: FAP

said by MrSpock29:

said by wbertram:

said by dvd536:

For cable.
the death knell if they do that
Perhaps for the few percent of those that abuse the service. For the vast majority of users, no problem! Their service gets better!

Bye!
What is considered abuse? Comcast doesn't know, unless they go by that 1% rule, which changes every month. So if the hidden cap is 100 gigs one month, and you use 90, you're not an abuser, but if the next month it is 80 gigs, and you still use 90, you have become an abuser?
Shouldn't they disclose terms clearly? And give subscribers a way of tracking it?
Um that's kind of the point of the article. They WOULD have a clear defined cap. ALL isps have caps. I can guarantee that. I doubt you could download a TB or 2 of data without your ISP bringing to your attention that you're using too much bandwidth. So why not just be open about it?

of curse they'd have to give you tools to track your usuage. Ther are actually tools you can use right now. I like DU Meter. You can get a free 30 trial

»www.download.com/DU-Meter/3000-2···10760704


sivran
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of curse they'd have to give you tools to track your usuage. Ther are actually tools you can use right now. I like DU Meter. You can get a free 30 trial
All well and good for one computer. A not-insignificant portion of households have two or more. Sure they could put two and two together, but people are stupid, and why should they have to?

It'd just be ridiculous for a service with hard usage limits not to give you a way to track your own usage.


Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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Panama City, FL
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I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.



fAcEtIOUs
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said by Boogeyman:

I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.
Use the free "NetLimiter 2 Monitor". It can distinguish between internet and intranet traffic. Just install on each PC.

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.

And best would be an ISP based system that was queryable from a web page.
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ptrowski
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said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Boogeyman:

I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.
Use the free "NetLimiter 2 Monitor". It can distinguish between internet and intranet traffic. Just install on each PC.

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.

And best would be an ISP based system that was queryable from a web page.
Tomato has a measurement tool built in.


Boogeyman
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reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Boogeyman:

I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.
Use the free "NetLimiter 2 Monitor". It can distinguish between internet and intranet traffic. Just install on each PC.

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.

And best would be an ISP based system that was queryable from a web page.
Thats the other problem, I have my Wii connected.

Do you know off hand which routers have that capability through firmware?


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reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.
I doubt that most consumers are going to fork over the $400 it costs for a low end Cisco router that keeps accurate bit counts in SNMP. (Yes, we all know there are cheaper routers with SNMP, but reliability of that data is always suspect for a number of reasons - some hardware, most firmware limitations)


fAcEtIOUs
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reply to Boogeyman

said by Boogeyman:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Boogeyman:

I used to use DUmeter when I had one pc, as soon as we got more than one, my DUmeter usage went from like 25-75gb mo to 100-300gb mo. Of course the jump was because we used one pc as a file server and would just stream music/video from it, but it made keeping track of actual internet usage impossible.

What they would need to do would be to offer a meter in the modem. So only traffic passing through the modem gets counted and no LAN traffic gets counted.
Use the free "NetLimiter 2 Monitor". It can distinguish between internet and intranet traffic. Just install on each PC.

Of course, a router based measurement tool(available in some wireless routers) would be better because of XBox and similar game consoles also generating traffic.

And best would be an ISP based system that was queryable from a web page.
Thats the other problem, I have my Wii connected.

Do you know off hand which routers have that capability through firmware?
Some Linksys and other models running DD-WRT freeware firmware support traffic data collection.
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Su···_Devices
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