Air WAV
join:2000-09-16
Saint Louis, MO
|  Could This Work?
The 3G networks are getting more and more reliable and cost effective. I had a customer tell me the other day that they are getting 1.5 down and 512k up in an area that does not have dsl/cable.
I know that there are wireless routers that work with a data pcmcia card. Any way that you can take that data and apply to a fixed wireless solution?
Thanks... 
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dongato17
VIP
join:2000-07-28
Atlanta, GA
| Sure, this is possible and we have made this sort of device before. The real issue with this in the US is that the providers don't want this and even unlimited plans have caps where they will still charge you if you drink too much from the fountain.
I think you should be the guinea pig and call VZ and ask if they will let you resell their cell data service. 
-Hal
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Air WAV
join:2000-09-16
Saint Louis, MO
| said by dongato17  :I think you should be the guinea pig and call VZ and ask if they will let you resell their cell data service. -Hal Actually I have another provider in mind... 
So what is the device? Would it be a computer/router that you could use a usb device? |
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| reply to Air WAV
said by Air WAV :I know that there are wireless routers that work with a data pcmcia card. So, which is it, pcmcia or usb?
As you mentioned, they make home routers that let you share EVDO over WiFi.
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Air WAV
join:2000-09-16
Saint Louis, MO
| said by LLigetfa :I know that there are wireless routers that work with a data pcmcia card. So, which is it, pcmcia or usb? They are available in both flavors. |
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| I realize that. If you could be more brand specific, we could search for linux driver support. If it supports linux, it should not be too dificult to implement it on a linux based router that has the necessary hardware interface.
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| I guess I really don't understand the question. Companies like D-Link already make EVDO routers that support the majority of PCMCIA and USB EVDO modems used by Sprint and Verizon. They also have wired ports on them you could connect to a WISP network.
All these devices are USB modems (the PCMCIA ones have a usb bridge on them) connecting using PPP so if you had a Mikrotik with a usb port on it, you could plug it in, configure the provider's code as the ph# (for Verizon it's #777) setup NAT and be able to provide service via the thing.
I believe the non-EVDO cards/USB units work the same so once again it's modem running at 1.5 Mbps or more.
The limitations of using this as an alternative to a leased line for bandwidth are as follows:
1. Requires NAT (may or may not be a limitation)
2. Provider restrictions on use.
3. Latency issues. As a regular user I have found the connection not to be stable with latency spikes. It's definitely not something to do with lots of VOIP. |
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davebc
join:2007-07-27
Langley, BC
| said by cmaenginsb :...connecting using PPP so if you had a Mikrotik with a usb port on it, you could plug it in, configure the provider's code as the ph# (for Verizon it's #777) Option's 7.2Mbps HSDPA cards don't do PPP the way earlier cards do. They have a packet interface more like an 802.11 card. When the 3.6Mbps "7.2 Ready" cards are upgraded to 7.2 firmware they change to packet interface as well. Info on this is available here »www.pharscape.org/component/opti···61397a3/
I don't know if other manufacturers do similar or not. Something to be aware of if building a solution with these cards.
Interesting to note #777 is #PPP on the dialpad.
I have wondered why there isn't a routerboard with USB or mini pci-e for this purpose. |
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| said by davebc :said by cmaenginsb :...connecting using PPP so if you had a Mikrotik with a usb port on it, you could plug it in, configure the provider's code as the ph# (for Verizon it's #777) Option's 7.2Mbps HSDPA cards don't do PPP the way earlier cards do. They have a packet interface more like an 802.11 card. When the 3.6Mbps "7.2 Ready" cards are upgraded to 7.2 firmware they change to packet interface as well. Info on this is available here » www.pharscape.org/component/opti···61397a3/I don't know if other manufacturers do similar or not. Something to be aware of if building a solution with these cards. Interesting to note #777 is #PPP on the dialpad. I have wondered why there isn't a routerboard with USB or mini pci-e for this purpose. The Routerboard 200 series had 2 USB ports but I believe they discontinued them.
I didn't know about the change with HSPDA as I am not as familiar due to lack of widespread availability compared to EVDO. |
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Air WAV
join:2000-09-16
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to cmaenginsb
said by cmaenginsb :I guess I really don't understand the question. Companies like D-Link already make EVDO routers that support the majority of PCMCIA and USB EVDO modems used by Sprint and Verizon. They also have wired ports on them you could connect to a WISP network. All these devices are USB modems (the PCMCIA ones have a usb bridge on them) connecting using PPP so if you had a Mikrotik with a usb port on it, you could plug it in, configure the provider's code as the ph# (for Verizon it's #777) setup NAT and be able to provide service via the thing. I believe the non-EVDO cards/USB units work the same so once again it's modem running at 1.5 Mbps or more. The limitations of using this as an alternative to a leased line for bandwidth are as follows: 1. Requires NAT (may or may not be a limitation) 2. Provider restrictions on use. 3. Latency issues. As a regular user I have found the connection not to be stable with latency spikes. It's definitely not something to do with lots of VOIP. Wow, thanks! |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Castle Rock, CO
| if you don't want to reinvent the wheel, you could be an MVNO with Sprint. check out the BBR forum called "Sprint Mobile broadband" »Sprint Mobile Broadband and note the entries for a "reseller" called Millenicom.
If you don't want to do all the work, or just get your feet wet before you jump in, there is another carrier that put together a deal with four cellular broadband providers and has an EVDO router deal -- with nationwide footprint. Your friendly neighborhood ShopforT1.com agent can help you with that. |
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