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AdamB

join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH
reply to pp03
Re: Is this really cheating?

Most likely if you copied it, it would be considered cheating. You should reword everything if you are going to use the information. My university is pretty strict about academic integrity, they don't fool around.


Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept

join:2004-06-26
·Embarq

said by AdamB See Profile :

Most likely if you copied it, it would be considered cheating. You should reword everything if you are going to use the information. My university is pretty strict about academic integrity, they don't fool around.
Rewording has become an art form in its own right!

Oddly enough, I did as well (or no better) with essays containing reworded material as I did writing the entire work myself. The benefit in going the reworded route was improved skill at recasting complex thoughts into your own words --it's not easy to do well. I'm not talking about word order and synonyms here ... I mean ripping someone off conceptually and rewriting it from scratch.

Inevitably, the challenge of rewriting and weaving someone else's work with mine, and without attribution, became wholly unsatisfying vs. critically thinking my way entirely through a thesis work. But I do think the process of doing it the cheater's way improved my writing in the end. The key is giving that up and doing it yourself at some point, time notwithstanding.

As for college and academic integrity, I hope it has improved. Two colleges I attended employed proctored testing labs with internet access
One went so far as to lock down the browsers, but you could still FTP while the proctors walked around gabbing amongst themselves.
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ihaddsl

join:2001-12-05
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·Comcast

Of course it's cheating, and it doesn't matter if others do it or not, you should not

Do the work, and you'll feel a whole lot better about it once it's finished, as well you'll gain from the process

cheat, and you won't have learned anything and you will have lost a little bit of your self along the way


Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept

join:2004-06-26
·Embarq

said by ihaddsl See Profile :

Of course it's cheating, and it doesn't matter if others do it or not, you should not
Did you read what I wrote?

Have you ever read an essay by a classmate who relied on cited works for more than half their essay? It's boring as hell and anyone can write that drivel because it requires hardly any critical thinking. My point was that if you do have integrity, and go through the process of 'artfully rewording' others' rhetorical stance or thesis support ... whatever, that you'll likely learn something in the process and go on to be a better writer/thinker yourself.

If you've no integrity, then it's a means to and end and you're cheating yourself.
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ihaddsl

join:2001-12-05
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·Comcast

said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

said by ihaddsl See Profile :

Of course it's cheating, and it doesn't matter if others do it or not, you should not
Did you read what I wrote?

Have you ever read an essay by a classmate who relied on cited works for more than half their essay? It's boring as hell and anyone can write that drivel because it requires hardly any critical thinking. My point was that if you do have integrity, and go through the process of 'artfully rewording' others' rhetorical stance or thesis support ... whatever, that you'll likely learn something in the process and go on to be a better writer/thinker yourself.

If you've no integrity, then it's a means to and end and you're cheating yourself.
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nope, cause I really meant to reply to the OP, not directly to you


Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept

join:2004-06-26
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said by ihaddsl See Profile :

said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

said by ihaddsl See Profile :

Of course it's cheating, and it doesn't matter if others do it or not, you should not
Did you read what I wrote?

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nope, cause I really meant to reply to the OP, not directly to you
No prob
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