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<title>Re: XP SP3 and IE6, IE7 and IE8 (Beta)  -  Important Information in Microsoft Help</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1362770"><b>Pentangle</b></A> : Thank you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : No.<br>You do not have to remove any, in fact.<br><br>If when all is said and done, you see extranous elements, let me know.<br><br>If you intend to reinstall IE7, it would be to your disadvantage to uninstall the Hotfixes listed.  Let XP and the Windows Installer service determine what is best to do.<br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1362770"><b>Pentangle</b></A> : Bill, there are a number of Security Updates and Hotfixes for IE7 in the Add/Remove program. Do they need to be removed one by one in reverse order of installation before removing IE7 itself?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/745435"><b>C DM</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by AtEase  :</small><br><br>I don't know what all the fuss is about.  There really isn't anything in SP3 that is a "must have". Just "Google" 'Microsoft XP SP3 problems', and you will see the hundreds of issues people are encountering with this so-called update.<br><br>I thought service packs were meant to be a step foreward.....in this case, we are most definately in reverse.<br>Install at your peril, and don't be taken in by anybody that tells you there are no problems, because they are being economical with the truth!!!<br> </div>I'm not sure who's been saying there are no problems--there are definitely problems of all kinds for different people, as mentioned in many different posts here and other places.  Nothing has really been hidden about any of this, so I don't think anyone is being "taken in" by anyone.  However, the people with problems still represent a very (and I do mean VERY) small portion of the total users who have upgraded to SP3.  This is aside from the fact that there are always people with problem when it comes to practically any update or anything new, no matter if it's from Microsoft or someone else, even outside the computer/technology field--there's really nothing new in that.  So, people should definitely be somewhat careful, as they should always be when it comes to practically everything, but there's really no need to truly worry about it as much though--for the vast majority SP3 is working just fine.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  bcastner <A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>HP's Print Director was broken by IE7.  That issue has long been resolved by an upgrade from HP. </div> You're right and it was fixed. I was just too lazy to search for the patch :p. I was also afraid it would affect other programs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Plus ~67MB MS U/date -> ~315MB D/L from MS-> 515MB CD they are sending out... seems like a lot MB for a small number of updates<hr></blockquote><br><br>~70MB is about right for what will be actually installed on your system.  314MB for the Redistributable EXE installer, is because it contains all things that could be installed, not all things that will be.  ISO images are always large, most of that space empty so ISOs are usually ~500-600mb in size.  It is an uncompressed format for data disks.<br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : I don't know what all the fuss is about.  There really isn't anything in SP3 that is a "must have". Just "Google" 'Microsoft XP SP3 problems', and you will see the hundreds of issues people are encountering with this so-called update.<br><br>I thought service packs were meant to be a step foreward.....in this case, we are most definately in reverse.<br>Install at your peril, and don't be taken in by anybody that tells you there are no problems, because they are being economical with the truth!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/185071"><b>kcazzie</b></A> : Here's some more on, "Microsoft warns of IE7 lock-in with <A HREF="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9083318"> -> XP SP3." </a><br><br>Edit;<br>This is what MS said about IE7 and SP 3...(If you left IE7 and installed SP 3)<br>This behavior is by design and here is why. When we install IE7 on Windows XP SP2, we backup the existing IE6 files in an uninstall directory.  Those IE6 files are the ones that shipped on XPSP2 plus all the security updates you&#146;ve installed while using IE6. Windows XP SP3 contains a newer version of the Internet Explorer 6 files. If you have XPSP3 on your system and uninstall IE7, your system would revert to the backed up (older) version of the IE6 files rather than the newer XPSP3 version. You would end up in a mixed file state in Windows where most files would be the upgraded XPSP3, except for the IE6 files restored when uninstalling IE7. This state is not supported and is very bug prone. To ensure a reliable user experience, we prevent this broken state by disabling the ability to uninstall Internet Explorer 7<br><br>Edit; I know many ppl didn't have problems but then again if you did, I would be pissed if this is true ..." "Windows XP SP3 contains a small number of new updates and should not significantly change the Windows XP experience." Plus ~67MB MS U/date -> ~315MB D/L from MS-> 515MB CD they are sending out... seems like a lot MB for a small number of updates...!... Then again I'm not sure what they mean about, "not significantly change the Windows XP experience." ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : If you have IE7 installed, there will be nothing of significance modified by SP3 if you have been current at Windows Updates for security fixes.<br><br>HP's Print Director was broken by IE7.  That issue has long been resolved by an upgrade from HP.<br><br>In summary, IE7 for someone up-to-date at Windows Update, is not modified by SP3, other than some internal versioning changes and the removal of the ability to uninstall it.<br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:40:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : Sounds like too much work. I'm running IE7 with SP2. Whenever the SP3 arrives via the critical updates I'll install it and not worry about not being able to unistall it.<br><br>Does anyone know what is the <b> major</b> issue people are experiencing? Does anyone know? I remember when I upgraded to IE7 a application dealing with HP printers wouldn't appear. I had to press ALT+Spacebar a couple times to get a maximize/minimize menu to appear that would allow me to utilize the program.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:28:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : You would have to use a Slipstream disk of SP3 in any case for a repair install.<br><br>As for IE7, my own view is that you would be in trouble, but I have yet to get confirmation from Microsoft on this. If SP2 slipstreamed is an example, you would have to use either Add or Remove Programs and revert IE7 to IE6 prior to the repair reinstallation; or, use Recovery Console to BATCH the spuninst.txt file to uninstall IE7. Either one has to be done prior to the reinstallation.<br><br>My belief is that this is still true.  That is why no matter if you never need IE6 again, you should still upgrade to XP SP3 with IE7 or IE8 uninstalled.  You can reinstall when done.  But I have not tried to replicate the case, and you cannot get anything from the IE or SP3 Team on the facts of this matter at the moment.<br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:22:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1018019"><b>pog</b></A> : Not sure if I understood everything...<br><br>Currently, suppose I have SP2 and IE7 with no desire to ever revert to IE6.  I install SP3 and move on... this is supported.<br><br>If I then find myself in a position where I need to do a repair install, I will have to use a slipstreamed xpsp3 disk?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://gopog.net/">My Site</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/745435"><b>C DM</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Rammitt :</small><br><br>Why, Oh Why do we keep testing this third rate rubbish for Microcon!  Beta Testers are a cheap alternative to reliable lab/condition testing.  If a product is unstable, what is the point on spreading it around the world.  We condemn virus writers for circulating maliscious code....but Microcon have been doing it for years.<br><br>Both the above products....SP3 and IE8 Beta are buggy and unstable beyond belief, and do not add anything of substance to your system, apart from bugs.  I know, I know......you are all gonna get on your high horses....feel free, its a free country<br><br>Soap box away!!!<br> </div>While there are some people who have ran into issues with SP3, as it is the case with almost any update or software (and certainly not just Microsoft ones) pretty much all the time, for the vast majority SP3 works just fine and provided a quick way to get all or most of the latest updates quickly at one time without really any other changes.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Why, Oh Why do we keep testing this third rate rubbish for Microcon!  Beta Testers are a cheap alternative to reliable lab/condition testing.  If a product is unstable, what is the point on spreading it around the world.  We condemn virus writers for circulating maliscious code....but Microcon have been doing it for years.<br><br>Both the above products....SP3 and IE8 Beta are buggy and unstable beyond belief, and do not add anything of substance to your system, apart from bugs.  I know, I know......you are all gonna get on your high horses....feel free, its a free country<br><br>Soap box away!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/502781"><b>Duchess44</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  bcastner <A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>May I ask that you start a New Topic concerning this installation issue?<br><br>Your request for help is unlikely to receive the attention it deserves in this thread.<br> </div>Sure.  Sorry for posting in the wrong thread.  :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : May I ask that you start a New Topic concerning this installation issue?<br><br>Your request for help is unlikely to receive the attention it deserves in this thread.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:21:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/502781"><b>Duchess44</b></A> : Just tried to install and when Windows restarted, it would only start in safe mode.  Had to do a system restore.  I don't know what the issue is.  Can anyone help me with this?<br><br>Not sure what info you need, but I will post what I believe is needed.  If you need other information, please just let me know and I will do my best to provide it.<br><br>HP Pavilion a1330n<br>Windows XP SP2<br>IE7<br><br>Thanks to anyone that can help with this.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/405300"><b>natedj</b></A> : thanks for the info]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/352846"><b>antdude</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jmorlan <A HREF="/useremail/u/305506"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Yes, you are fine.  <br><br>The problems only exist for those using IE7 or IE8b.  As long as you stay with IE6, you should have no problems as discussed in this thread.<br><br>My take is that this is a consequence of IE being so tightly integrated into the operating system.</div>Thanks. I guess it is good to stay where I am. [grin]<br><small>--<br>Ant @ &raquo;<A HREF="http://antfarm.ma.cx" >antfarm.ma.cx</A> and &raquo;<A HREF="http://aqfl.net" >aqfl.net</A>. Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/305506"><b>jmorlan</b></A> : Yes, you are fine.  <br><br>The problems only exist for those using IE7 or IE8b.  As long as you stay with IE6, you should have no problems as discussed in this thread.<br><br>My take is that this is a consequence of IE being so tightly integrated into the operating system.  <br><small>--<br>If America has an official philosophy, it surely includes the belief in individualism, competition, private property, democracy, freedom, and a deep faith in education.  This social philosophy is called "liberalism."  GKM (1936)</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/352846"><b>antdude</b></A> : Let me understand this correctly. I still have IE6.0 SP2 in my XP Pro. SP2 with all updates. If I upgrade to SP3, then I will have IE6.0 SP3 and still can get updates until MS drops IE6 support. Am I correct?<br><br>I am not planning to upgrade IE to 7 or 8 any time soon unless 1) My IE breaks and I can't repair, but upgrade does, 2) MS or something else forces me to use it due to Windows Update or whatever.<br><small>--<br>Ant @ &raquo;<A HREF="http://antfarm.ma.cx" >antfarm.ma.cx</A> and &raquo;<A HREF="http://aqfl.net" >aqfl.net</A>. Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/679384"><b>Doug45</b></A> : Thanks for the information. I followed your instructions and updated to SP3 today.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1373067"><b>pitroad01</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  bcastner <A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>No.<br><br>IE6 is reverted in full automatically.<br> </div>Great, thanks]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : No.<br><br>IE6 is reverted in full automatically.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1373067"><b>pitroad01</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  C DM <A HREF="/useremail/u/745435"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  pitroad01 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1373067"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>If I uninstall IE7 how do I get to Microsoft Update ?<br> </div>Via IE 6?<br> </div>Do I need to reinstall IE6 if I uninstall IE7 ?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/745435"><b>C DM</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pitroad01 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1373067"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>If I uninstall IE7 how do I get to Microsoft Update ?<br> </div>Via IE 6?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1196007"><b>CUBS_FAN</b></A> : Sounds like the safest bet is to stick with Windows 95  :) :p  just kidding]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917630"><b>Cudni</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  bcastner <A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Cudni,<br><br>That is not clear at all that your case will prove true.  If so I will write it up.<br><br> </div>the theory of course is one, while practice a lot of time, is another thing. Thank you for testing it for sure.<br><br>Cudni<br><small>--<br>"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol." <br>Help yourself so God can help you.<br>Microsoft MVP,  2006 - 2008</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:20:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : Cudni,<br><br>That is not clear at all that your case will prove true.  If so I will write it up.<br><br>But it was decidedly <b>not</b> the case for XP SP2.  You ended up with a non-working mix of IE versions because the reversion was not done prior to the in-place upgrade.  In the XP SP2 case the reversion to IE6 files were perfectly accessible, just not used.  It is exactly that scenario that I discuss above:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917964/" >support.microsoft.com/kb/917964/</A><br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:14:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : SFC /Scannow is accomodated without issue.  It was not a problem for SP2 with IE7 installed either.  Remember that in the main the files that get replaced come from the DLLCache, or $Mig$, and not the CD, even though it will likely prompt for it.<br><br>XP "hordes" backups of its critical system files.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:11:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/723836"><b>33591094</b></A> : Thanks for the heads up. I'll be uninstalling IE7 before installing SP3, looks like. It leaves me with more 'wiggle room' down the road. I can always reinstall IE7 (or 8.0 by then) later.....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 09:56:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917630"><b>Cudni</b></A> : The way I understood it, if you running IE7 (and applied sp3) an attempt repair will work fine because IE7 can't be removed and therefore pre SP3 IE6 file can't be restored<br><br>This only affects people who wish to replace, for whatever reason, IE6 with IE7<br><br>Cudni<br><small>--<br>"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol." <br>Help yourself so God can help you.<br>Microsoft MVP,  2006 - 2008</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 09:55:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/305506"><b>jmorlan</b></A> : What happens when you are running IE7 and attempt a Windows Repair Install without first reverting to IE6?<br><br>Likewise what happens when you run SFC /SCANNOW?  <br><br>Would these routines also replace some of the IE7 files with older IE6 ones creating a mess?<br><br>Thank you very much for the helpful information. <br><small>--<br>If America has an official philosophy, it surely includes the belief in individualism, competition, private property, democracy, freedom, and a deep faith in education.  This social philosophy is called "liberalism."  GKM (1936)</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 09:06:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/694266"><b>Alwill</b></A> : By uninstalling IE7 and reverting back to IE6, is the information stored in Favourites and Google Bookmarks lost and, if so, is there a way to migrate the data?.<br><small>--<br>Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy - Anonymous</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:30:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/185071"><b>kcazzie</b></A> : Thank you...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:37:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/222570"><b>Barbara Ann</b></A> : Thanks loads bcastner. I am 'old school' or maybe 'stupid' but I am sticking with IE6.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:26:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : Recovery Console and an in-place upgrade form of reinstallation repair are apples and oranges.  I know you know this, but I want to be clear about the differences, and why and when these two procedures are used.<br><br>I think I know what you are asking, and please correct me if I do not have it right.  <br><br>Right now, if you have IE7 installed, and do an in-place upgrade with XP SP2 slipstreamed, you have a problem.  Because SP2 knew nothing about IE7 it overwrites in part the installed IE7 components leaving a mess.  So in the past you used Recovery Console and the BATCH command to uninstall IE7 from the spuninstal folder <b><u>prior</u></b> to the in-place repair reinstallation (only if the machine was unbootable and you could not use Add or Remove Programs to achieve the same end).<br><br>The answer is now potentially even more complicated unless you do the "right thing" prior to installing Service Pack 3:  Uninstall IE7. Do the SP3 installation.  Reinstall IE7.  This case then acts identical to the situation with Service Pack 2.  You use Recovery Console if need be, Add or Remove if possible, and uninstall IE7 prior to the in-place upgrade with a slipstream of XP and SP3.<br><br>Now the complicated case.  You did not uninstall IE7 prior to installing SP3.  <b><i>This is a scenario you deal with by avoiding it completely.</b></i>.  I have some ideas about how to avoid this case being one of a clean install, but I am still researching if it is possible.  I promise to post notes in the near future to handle this case if it can be done.  <br><br>But in the strongest possible terms I recommend uninstalling either <b>IE7</b> or <b>IE8 Beta</b> <u><i>prior</i></u> to installing SP3.<br><br><i>Or, if you did <b>not</b> do this already, uninstall SP3. Then uninstall IE7/IE8. Then reinstall SP3. Finally, reinstall your newer IE version</i>.  <br><br>This puts you back with the cability to use Add or Remove programs or Recovery Console to uninstall IE7/IE8 before doing an in-place upgrade reinstallation with a slipstream of XP and SP3.<br><br>At the moment, that is the only supported scenario that I know of for doing a successful in-place upgrade reinstallation using an XP and Service Pack 3 slipstream, just as it was the case  for SP2.<br><br>I promise a later note soonest about this entire issue.  The above is my best understanding of the issues involved, and the consequences of whatever choices you make now in installing SP3 with either IE7 or IE8 in place.  Again, this is not a statement of official fact; just my best understanding of what has been issued by Microsoft concerning the issue.  To my knowledge, there has not been a formal statement on an in-place upgrade form of reinstallation with an XP+SP3 slipstream.<br><br>Best wishes,<br>Bill Castner<br><br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:12:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/305506"><b>jmorlan</b></A> : Interesting information.  <br><br>But under SP2 if you are running IE7 and need to do a Windows Recovery, you will no longer be able to connect to the Internet unless you first uninstall IE7.  <br><br>Will users running SP3 and the uninstallable version of IE7 be able to use the Windows Recovery Console without giving up Internet access?<br><small>--<br>If America has an official philosophy, it surely includes the belief in individualism, competition, private property, democracy, freedom, and a deep faith in education.  This social philosophy is called "liberalism."  GKM (1936)</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1347796"><b>ltsnow</b></A> : Thanks for the info.  I just install XP3 and then installed IE7.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:28:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/332469"><b>sfromsf</b></A> : Good info.  Thanks]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 21:53:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693977"><b>bcastner</b></A> : From notes by MS-MVP and AumHa VSOP <b>Robear Dyer</b>.  This is important information for planning on what to do about IE when installing Service Pack 3 for XP.<br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr><b><u>Internet Explorer 6 Users</u></b><br><br>XPSP3 will continue to ship with IE6 and contains a roll-up of the latest security updates for IE6. If you are still running Internet Explorer 6, then XPSP3 will be offered to you via Windows Update as a high priority update. You can safely install XPSP3 and will have an updated version of IE6 with all your personal preferences, such as home pages and favorites, still intact. <br><br>If you are currently running IE7 or IE8 on  Windows XP SP2 (XPSP2) and you are thinking of upgrading to XPSP3, read on. <br><br><u><b>Internet Explorer 7 Users</b></u><br><br>If you are currently running IE7 on XPSP2, Windows Update will offer you XPSP3 as a high priority update. If you choose to install XPSP3, Internet Explorer 7 will remain on your system after the install is complete. Your preferences will be retained. <u>However, you will no longer be able to uninstall IE7.</u> If you go to Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs, the <b>Remove</b> option will be grayed out.<br><br>This behavior is by design and here is why. When we install IE7 on Windows XP SP2, we backup the existing IE6 files in an uninstall directory.  Those IE6 files are the ones that shipped on XPSP2 plus all the security updates you&#146;ve installed while using IE6. Windows XP SP3 contains a newer version of the Internet Explorer 6 files. If you have XPSP3 on your system and uninstall IE7, your system would revert to the backed up (older) version of the IE6 files rather than the newer XPSP3 version. You would end up in a mixed file state in Windows where most files would be the upgraded XPSP3, except for the IE6 files restored when uninstalling IE7. This state is not supported and is very bug prone. To ensure a reliable user experience, we prevent this broken state by disabling the ability to uninstall Internet Explorer 7. <br><br>If you must uninstall IE7 after you have upgraded to XPSP3, then you have to first uninstall XPSP3, and then uninstall IE7. After this series of uninstalls, you will be reverted back to a XPSP2, and a stable version of IE6, so feel free to upgrade to XPSP3 again. <br><br>If you install IE7 after you install XPSP3, then you will be able to uninstall IE7 at any point and be reverted to the newer IE6 version that ships in XPSP3. The restriction on uninstalling only applies to when you install a Windows Service Pack release on top of a standalone IE release. <br><br><i>Keeping this in mind, you might want to uninstall IE7, upgrade to XPSP3 and then install IE7 again so you can uninstall IE7 in the future if need be. </i><br><br><b><u>Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 Users</u></b><br><br>Installing IE8 Beta1 on Windows XP SP3  is fully supported, so go ahead and upgrade your computers to XPSP3 and then install IE8 Beta 1 to try out our new features. You will be able to uninstall IE8 Beta 1 at any point to revert back to either IE7 or IE6 depending on what you were using before. <br><br><u>However, if you already have IE8 Beta 1 installed on XPSP2, Windows XP SP3 will not be offered to you via Windows Update.</u> This is because after you update your system to XPSP3, you will no longer be able to uninstall IE8 Beta 1 and the <b>Remove</b> option will be grayed out under the Add/Remove programs in Control Panel. The reason is the same as in IE7 case described above. Since people are more likely to uninstall beta software, we strongly recommend uninstalling IE8 Beta 1 prior to upgrading to Windows XP SP3 to eliminate any deployment issues and install IE8 Beta 1 after XPSP3 is on your machine. <br>(emphasis added)<br><hr></blockquote><br><br><b>Source:</b> &raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx" >blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/0&middot;&middot;&middot;sp3.aspx</A><br><small>--<br><b>============</b><br><b>MS-MVP 2004 - -2008, ASAP Member</b><br><b><i>Users Helping Users</i></b><br><br></small>]]></description>
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