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espaeth
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Re: Another nice move by Comcast

said by FLengineer:

The proposal arrived two days before a planned network neutrality hearing in Stanford
I think it's funny that people reference the "net neutrality" meeting at Stanford without noticing Stanford's own policy towards P2P:

From a networking perspective, Stanford suffers under current file-sharing because of the resources it eats up. The people at Networking Systems want to help limit Stanford's liability under the DMCA, but aside from this concern, they also want to provide a reliable network for all users. Therefore, Networking Systems has limited the amount of network resources that may be used for file-sharing. The purpose of the cap is to make the network usable for schoolwork and other important activities. It is not to punish the students-- faculty and staff share the same restrictions--but rather to improve the network for everyone.
Source: »rescomp.stanford.edu/info/dmca/#network


FLengineer
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Not an ISP.

Most companies prohibit the use of P2P period. Stanford's network is nothing more than a huge private network. Now I wonder what Stanford's view would be if their ISP just decided to thottle P2P traffic for them without an option.



espaeth
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They buy capacity from carriers who have completely different (ie, realistic) bandwidth pricing structures.

Similarly when you sign up for Comcast you are buying attachment to their private network that has upstream connections to carriers.



funchords
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reply to espaeth
nice find!

Throughout the history of the net, Stanford feels left out unless it's on both sides of everything...

»www.netfunny.com/rhf/rhfban.html


patcat88

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reply to espaeth
You realize that the fact the meeting is held at Stanford Uni has no relevance to the meeting, they can hold it in a hotel, high school gym, banquet hall, night club, sports stadium, theater, etc.



espaeth
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Clearly you didn't watch any of the coverage of the event, where Lawrence Lessig (Stanford law prof) had an entire PowerPoint presentation dedicated to highlighting Standford as a cradle for Internet innovation, citing the birth of Google and Yahoo!, among other things.

Barbara van Schewick (also from Stanford) gave a presentation mid-way through the hearing stating that investor fears that P2P-like apps would be throttled have resulted in at least one project that she was aware of being denied funding.

It was more than just a random venue, Stanford faculty presented at the event.



funchords
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In agreement with you -- I'm pretty sure that FCC Chairman Martin is on the record saying that he held the second hearing because Lessig requested it.


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