Comcast Scraps P2P 'Bill Of Rights' Idea > I am with the Consumer Advocates

reply to FLengineer

Re: I am with the Consumer Advocates

I realize that. Believe it or not your POTS line is the same way. Your ILEC will server a community of 1500 people with say 672 availible lines. They are counting on not everyone using the phone at the same time. However, if those trunk lines are at 75% load for a long period of time they will add more to accomodate the traffic load.

"We're sorry, all circuits are busy now. Please hang up and try your call again later."
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Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power…

Yes, exactly. But the point is the backbone of the network is upgraded to support the increased traffic load. Have you ever had a Telco tell you that they are going to start blocking calls to pagers to reduce traffic because more than half of the population that still own pagers are drug dealers?

reply to N3OGH
Yeah, when was the last time you heard that when calling another residential number in the USA (meaning you didn't reach the PBX of some business)?

reply to FLengineer
To upgrade a trunk line is a 15 minute line card swap. Effortless. The bigger question is, what if at a neighborhood distribution panel, there aren't enough pairs on the trunk line going back to the CO from the panel and too many people have 2-3 lines?

reply to FLengineer
Is there a formula for that?

I've been trying to find a concise way to express this concept. Something like -- the system is customarily sold beyond capacity, owing to the experience that customers do not the service simultaneously.

I want to say something like:

The system should be managed in a way that allows a person to access the subscribed speed, with only rare and brief exceptions.

... and then point to examples of a familiar formula or process that explains this concept -- overselling is okay and normal, expectations are okay to make and set as long as they're in good faith and maintained.
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Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon
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reply to N3OGH

reply to patcat88
Then a telco would lay fiber if it isn't already in the ground. There is no neighborhood that can max out 2 pairs of fiber.

reply to funchords
Well, there is no set formula for over-provisioning. but the trunks to the central office are pretty standard. A DS1 is 24 voice channels, a DS3 is 28xDS1, beyond that is fiber using OC3, OC12, OC48, OC192, DWDM. The fiber standards aren't used to carry traditional 64Kb/s voice channels, instead they are usually used to carry ToA traffic which has your voice call on a data network. Those speeds go upto 100Gb/s using DWDM.

Most telcos have their own ratio of subscribers to availible trunk lines. I believe Embarq uses 4:1 in most cases but not positive about that.

Thanks!