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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | whiners quit whining 250 GB not enough? Oh well pay the extra or go with DSL. Ever think maybe they WANT the hogs to leave?
I feel that the people doing most of the whining either don't know how much they actually use and assume they use more than 250 GB or they download a lot of illegal stuff off of torrents and now that will have to stop.
You have to do a lot of stuff to go over 250 GB. No your VoIP and e-mail is not going to put you over the limit. Your playing on XBOX Live might use 15 GB MAX. And no you game update aren't going to eat 250 GB considering the largest XBOX 360 HDD hold only 120 GB. Sorry you do NOT download 250 GB worth of Linux distros on a monthly basis. HD movie downloads via apple or XBOX Live are 6 GB each. Are you watching 1.3 HD movies a day? If you can afford that you can afford the overage fee. Downloading 5000 songs in a month would only use 10% of your cap.
My only question is thay said it's $15 for every 10 GB over the limit. So does that mean if you use 259 GB you don't get charged anything? Or is it UP to 10 GB over. So 251 GB-260 GB is $15 extra, 261 GB-270 GB is $30 and so on. Some clarity in this would be nice.
Also you are not getting booted off you can still download as much as you want you just are going to have to pay for it. If you prefer perhaps you rather have them lower you speeds to 256 kbps or less for the rest of the month instead? | | |
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| THANK YOU. someone that actually understands. and doesnt whine for the sake of whining....
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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Cingular Wireless
| reply to BF69
ever heard of home networks? Ever imagined that the uses you so graciously mentioned, when multiplied by 3 or 4 computers, and devices like AppleTV and Slingbox, will EASILY eat up that 250 gig cap? Comcast needs to get real. Times change, and rate at which things are going, 250 gigs will be nothing. And don't tell me that it costs $1.50/10 Gigs for comcast to transfer data. Most peering agreements serve about 100 GB for like $.10. Compcast's making that $15/100 GB. That's pure robbery, nothing else.
And how 'bout the 50 Mbit users? they'll reach that cap in DAYS. Oh wait, that 50 Mbit package isn't actually meant to be used, I forgot.
Sorry to break your daydream, buddy, but home networking and multimedia will force Comcast to learn the hard way that $1.50/10 GB is a pure rip-off, and even your average JOe, in about 5 years, will feel the pinch when he gets a $100 internet bill for streaming HD video to his 3 computers. | |
BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by a333:ever heard of home networks? Ever imagined that the uses you so graciously mentioned, when multiplied by 3 or 4 computers, and devices like AppleTV and Slingbox, will EASILY eat up that 250 gig cap? Comcast needs to get real. Times change, and rate at which things are going, 250 gigs will be nothing. And don't tell me that it costs $1.50/10 Gigs for comcast to transfer data. Most peering agreements serve about 100 GB for like $.10. Compcast's making that $15/100 GB. That's pure robbery, nothing else. And how 'bout the 50 Mbit users? they'll reach that cap in DAYS. Oh wait, that 50 Mbit package isn't actually meant to be used, I forgot. Sorry to break your daydream, buddy, but home networking and multimedia will force Comcast to learn the hard way that $1.50/10 GB is a pure rip-off, and even your average JOe, in about 5 years, will feel the pinch when he gets a $100 internet bill for streaming HD video to his 3 computers. A) I have 3 computers and an XBOX 360 hooked up and don't come near 250 GB. Try doing REAL math. Apple Tv can only hold 120 GB so I'm kind of wondering how it's going to get over 250 GB use a month.
B) What is Comcast supposed to learn the hard way? If some guy using 500 GB leaves and goes to DSL guess what Comcast SAVES money. In fact if enough leave then people that use much less are less likely to leave because of slow conenctions caused buy the hogs. | |
 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to BF69
Stop and think of the future. 1, 2, maybe more, HDTV streams coming into a household via IP. That would smoke 250GB pretty quickly.
This may solve Comcast's problems.... 1) Block future competition, 2) Generate extra revenue, and 3) Help them minimize upgrade or expansion costs.
Meanwhile for consumers of the near future, it blows.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
 RR ConductorNWP RR Inc.,serving NW CAPremium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1 | reply to BF69
said by BF69:250 GB not enough? Oh well pay the extra or go with DSL. Well, that's great IF you have a choice of broadband, many of us don't. | |
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said by BF69:ever heard of home networks? [...] gets a $100 internet bill for streaming HD video to his 3 computers. Yes we have heard of home networks, the question is do you understand how they work ?
Streaming from your appleTv and Slingbox to one of your computers is done via your HOME NETWORK, via your router... You only use the net if stream from home to say your office PC, you don't count bandwidth usage within your own network, and where would be the logic of streaming the same HD movie 3 times to 3 different computers off the net...
250 GB is PLENTY, even with 3 computers, an XBOX, a media center device like slingshot, this measure is made to ensure that network resources are not being squandered stupidly.
Oh and peering agreements are done in bulk and for network infrastructures that are at the very least OC3, not your shared bus via a coaxial line, even if it's DOCSIS 3.0 it has its limitations...
The overage is a bit steep, but fair, if you REALLY need more then 250 gigs then you should pay for ABUSING the network, and yes at 50mbits/s you reach that cap fairly quickly, if you are hoarding HD porn, illegal copy's of XBOX, PS3's ISO's and everything single flavor of linux distros....
Seriously, who has the time to actually attend to everything they download at that speed ? | |
BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to RR Conductor
said by RR Conductor:said by BF69:250 GB not enough? Oh well pay the extra or go with DSL. Well, that's great IF you have a choice of broadband, many of us don't. well all I read is "Bye bye Comast, hello DSL, FiOS whatever" If they institute this cap and comcast is your only choice for broadband then there's nothing you can really do about it now is there?
The thing is most of the people complaining, when this thing actually gets instituted, will find out they were whining for nothing since they used MUCH less than they thought. | |
a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
·Verizon Online DSL
·Cingular Wireless
| reply to CheteBrown
So... according to you, I pay $150 for a 50/5 Mbit connection, then must be expected not to be a power user/"hog"/whatever term you want to substitute? Isn't the whole POINT of 50 Mbit to appeal to the "hogs"? I sure as hell don't want to buty that service to make my e-mail appear quicker. $150/month is about half the price of a T1, so I sure have the right to unshaped trafffic, AND caps WAY higher than 250 gigs. And Picture this:
Joe Sixpack is streaming 20 Mbit kiddie pr0n on his HDTV in the living room. (using Apple TV)
At the same time, he has Slingbox set to stream last weeks flicks to Ginny Granny 150 miles away.
Danny Downloader is downloading 'every possible flavour of linux', and video conferencing with his friends using a 5 Mbit Up/down link speed.
Diane is in HER bedroom VPN'ing into work, and catching up on the latest flick of newsgroups, and DL'ing the latest episode of whatever TV show she missed last Saturday.
Not to mention Tamey teenager getting the latest WoW patches, and purchasing the few games off of Steam.
Tell me, how the HELL does the above use ONLY home network capacity? You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. | |
 joetaxpayerI'M Here Till Thursday
join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
 ·Comcast
| reply to BF69
I think the OP here has some good points. Nothing to contradict.
Just a remark - Comcast should offer a simple way to check the odometer. I can go to my basement, see the water meter. I know in August it's $10 to water the GD lawn.
A meter on the account would let me look anytime I wish, and if I see I use 50GB/mo average, fine, I have little to worry about. If I see I average over 200GB, I can decide to change my behavior, tell the kids to get off YouTube, or stop renting Apple Movies the last week of the month.
I can only guess my usage right now, about 25MB for an hour of audio podcast, barely 30 hrs a month, there's a GB, not even. Hmmmm, maybe I'm good for 10-15GB? | |
mlmcasual
join:2007-09-18
Commerce Township, MI | reply to BF69
Quite whining? well then go use your 486 because Bill Gates told you 64K is more then anyone will ever need.. (cough *noob)
Im amazed how short sighted and ignorant" some responses are here.. The REAL issue is having fair options to meet YOUR own usuage..thats fair if there are different rates for different uses.
To say 250gig is enough casle closed is a clueless argument. 250gb is roughly 2 DAYS continuous full speed use.. This is easily reached (and legally) by downloading a couple episodes of LOST off usenet/giganews.. and for those saying nothing uses it shows how clueless you are about the future.. MS-Xbox has a deal with netflix to do unlimited monthly rental for one thing.. and who know what else the future holds..
Im tired clueless computer illiterate users that don't know thier elbow from usenet saying THIER limited mental and computer capabilities are enough a cap for all others.. We need options for legit power users not be crippled by lemmings.
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| reply to BF69
Have you seen the size of video games lately ?
Take Age of Conan for example. More than 30GB.
Now think about how many people buy their video games digitally from the likes of Direct2Drive, Steam, EA, Ncsoft.
And exactly how does this effect streaming videos from the likes of Hulu or crunchy roll.
There is a lot more legitimate downloads out there than you think, and the sizes of files these days are enormous.
We are living in a digital age now, to put a cap on your useage, is to put a cap on what you can and can't buy. | |
| reply to BF69
What about those of us who use virtual worlds??
I do a lot in Second Life, got comcasts suggested meter today. In two hours, going to two places i used up 500mb.
Now, throw in the fact I watch my tv, listen to the radio, browse the web and then throw in the kid doing the same plus MySpace and YouTube, and i'm pretty sure i'm sucking up my new 250GB limit quick.
I don't even mind paying more. Except at this time they don't have another option and the only thing available to me is Comcast or Qwest/Microsucks.
But to just start cutting me off, with five calls to support who never once mentioned that i'm being throttled while i waste days checking cables, running new ones, changing settings, changing out my modem etc... and i'm upset.
I've always thought it bad the TV company got into internet and i have to agree with the others, the more we start to use the net for our media and games and don't simply pay the 70 bucks a month to get emails, the more ISPs will have to change things.
Hell, with the new limits if i was grandma getting my email and pictures of the grandkids once in a while, the more i'd be asking "why am I haveing to pay 70 a month for 1gig?? | |
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