KCrimson
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Re: A Look At Bondi Blue iMac 10 Yrs Later
If I recall correctly MS Word and Excel first appeared on MacOS. I had no problem at all finding exactly what I wanted. In fact, unlike today, a good percentage of software available in retail stores was released on CDs that contained both Mac and PC compatible versions.
As for IE, yes it was available, as was Netscape and Mosaic before it.
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jrs8084
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| said by KCrimson  :If I recall correctly MS Word and Excel first appeared on MacOS. You are correct. And they were quite decent (especially Word 5.1), until the release of Word 6/Excel 5, which were horrid and slow. Office 97 did fix things greatly, though.
And yes, IE was on that original iMac. Sadly, that was the best (IMHO) for that time. Yeah, Netscape was there, too, but it wasn't that much better.
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X Man
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KCrimson
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| I don't agree. I was using OS 7 in all its revisions, as well as every version of OS 8, and also using PCs at that time. There was LESS of a difference in browsing than you find today. Speed was limited mostly by the user's bandwidth, not processing power. Active-X was not yet as pervasive as it is today. Every popular plug-in was available for both platforms. As Macs were a greater percentage of the installed base, there were fewer sites that disregarded the ability of Mac users to correctly view web pages. Perhaps you had broadband, I didn't have it until around 2000, by which time I was using the other platform.
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X Man
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It was, and IE was the best on 9 no doubt. I liked System 7 though. Still do, maybe 'cause 7.5 was my first Mac's OS.
I liked hopping 7.5 up to look like 8 with Appearance Manager, good stuff. I still run Basilisk II with that 7.5 APM set-up and play Sim City
I'm going to have to fire up my Mac SE HD as I haven't in probably 2-3 yrs  It's stacked with a 4MB RAM upgrade and System 7-Up  And, it can Talk with MacinTalk and I bet it can still kick my ass @ GNU Chess.
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said by jrs8084 :said by KCrimson :If I recall correctly MS Word and Excel first appeared on MacOS. You are correct. And they were quite decent (especially Word 5.1), until the release of Word 6/Excel 5, which were horrid and slow. Office 97 did fix things greatly, though. And yes, IE was on that original iMac. Sadly, that was the best (IMHO) for that time. Yeah, Netscape was there, too, but it wasn't that much better. no you are both wrong. Microsoft released the program October 25, 1983, for the IBM PC. |
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Count Zero
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Were Macs really a greater % of the user base in 1995 than they are today? That would seem to imply Apple has shrunk since Jobs came back |
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wilbilt
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| said by Count Zero :Were Macs really a greater % of the user base in 1995 than they are today? That would seem to imply Apple has shrunk since Jobs came back The first thing he did upon his return was to kill the clone licensing. Radius, Power Computing, SuperMac and Motorola made some pretty nice machines. That had to hurt the OS user base. |
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Actually we're both right, and we're both wrong. MS Word appeared on Mac, and gained its initial popularity on the Mac platform BEFORE it was released on Windows. HOWEVER it was released on MS/PC-DOS before that, seeing much less success. Wordstar and then WordPerfect were the word processing powerhouses on PCs.
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Yes, MacOS commanded a larger segment of the overall market back then, as opposed to the less-than-10% we see OS X enjoying today. I don't have the numbers, but I'm sure they'll prove me correct. It wasn't until the release of Win95 and then Win98 that Windows started to obliterate its competition. During the Win3.1 days it was very close, and with the installed base of machines dating back a few years, the previous close-call meant PLENTY of installed MacOS users.
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KCrimson
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said by wilbilt :said by Count Zero :Were Macs really a greater % of the user base in 1995 than they are today? That would seem to imply Apple has shrunk since Jobs came back The first thing he did upon his return was to kill the clone licensing. Radius, Power Computing, SuperMac and Motorola made some pretty nice machines. That had to hurt the OS user base. Actually, that isn't the reason that the userbase dwindled. It already WAS dwindling for a couple of years. The effect of dozens of clone makers providing commodity parts started to take effect, and people were realizing that they could get the GUI interface (which MS was steadily catching up to Apple at providing) for less money. I remember reading sneak previews of Win95 and being a bit jealous that MS was finally getting things right. Combine that with Apple selling off unsold machines for losses, rumours of buyouts, unsuccessful long-overdue-rebuilds of MacOS, and the apparent lack of direction of the company, it was pretty sad.
When Jobs came back there was excitement for the first time in YEARS. Yes, he shocked everyone initially with the discontinuation of the clones. MacWorld, held in Boston that year, was the event where he announced the Microsoft commitment to Office. The press was already detailing the wonderous new direction that the new MacOS was taking. With the NeXT software assets this guy Avi Tavanian was helping create a next generation MacOS with something called a Red Box and Yellow Box.  If the past few years were a bottomless pit, that MacWorld was the beginning of the climb back out.
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| said by KCrimson :MacWorld, held in Boston that year, said by KCrimson :this guy Avi Tavanian was helping create a next generation MacOS with something called a Red Box and Yellow Box. So, if MW were in Chicago, would there have been a White Box?
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wmcbrine
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said by Count Zero :Were Macs really a greater % of the user base in 1995 than they are today? That would seem to imply Apple has shrunk since Jobs came back. The share is smaller, but the market itself is much larger (i.e., more people buy computers). I believe it works out to considerably more customers now.
It seems almost counterintuitive to someone like me, who's always owned computers since 1982, but it's true. The popularization of the Internet drove a huge uptake of computers among the general public (and still does, of course).
At one time I had a nice chart showing this, but I can't find it now.
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Count Zero
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