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Re: Incomplete List
China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported.
Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. |
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pnh102
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| said by Karl Bode  :China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported. Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. Then it would be incorrect to conclude that the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders.
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Karl Bode
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said by pnh102 :said by Karl Bode :China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported. Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. Then it would be incorrect to conclude that the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders. I think at this point it's perfectly fair to conclude that SO FAR, it appears the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders.
That's the great thing about on-going tests, the conclusions and results can be updated as time goes on. |
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pnh102
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said by Karl Bode :Whatever you'd like to believe, I guess. At best, this website provides tools for testing. But without actual research being done in many of these countries, it is not possible to reach a credible conclusion.
It would be like saying "Wyoming has more crime than California" when all your evidence is just the crime stats for Wyoming and nothing else for California.
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said by Karl Bode :Whatever you'd like to believe, I guess. Always a pain when the facts get in the way of one's agenda.... Makes it so much harder to justify or modify or distort to fit the ideology. Which in this case is "Big Business = Good"...
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battleop
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So how do the account for a tester that may be sitting behind a company firewall? Does it account for that? What if I am sitting in a hotel that blocks this traffic? Does that mean that the ISP is falsely accused of shaping this traffic? |
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jc100
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At best it shows that at least for the limited amount of testing, SINGAPORE and the USA are WORSE offenders. However, being the scale of ISPS tested are limited (pending more exist obviously), only cannot make this assertion on a whole. Merely, one can just look at the data and say in terms of what has been collected, the US and SINGAPORE are fairing much worse at this given moment. That may or may not change, obviously. Time is he deciding factor. Still, it's sad to even note we make the list. We champion the cause of Democracy while doing everything we can to back paddle from it in the last 10 years in both private and governmental sectors. |
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rgillis70
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| Well Ireland has now pulled ahead of the US:
Ireland 1 out of 7 = 14%
Canada 1 out of 99 = 1 %
Malaysia 1 out of 2 = 50%
Singapore 1 out of 6 = 16%
US - 10 out of 199 = 5%
Edit: So the US is 4th now... |
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pnh102
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| said by rgillis70 :Edit: So the US is 4th now... Damnit... we can't NOT be #1... when I get home (I have Comcast) I will do a few tests so we return to the front of the line where we belong!
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pnh102
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said by KrK :Which in this case is "Big Business = Good"... That's GREED IS GOOD. Get it right!
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pnh102
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said by battleop :So how do the account for a tester that may be sitting behind a company firewall? Does it account for that? What if I am sitting in a hotel that blocks this traffic? Does that mean that the ISP is falsely accused of shaping this traffic? I haven't personally run the test as all their connections are in use when I try it but you make an interesting point. What if isn't your ISP that is blocking the traffic but your ISP's provider instead? Does the test differentiate between which service provider is doing the blocking?
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jc100
join:2002-04-10 | reply to pnh102
Hey by all means add to the list. As I said above pnh, it is reflective of the data set at a given moment. The fact we make the list at all is disturbing if you ask me. |
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gizmopt2002
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Heh. I just watched that movie.
And Yes I do live in an unfinished house, doubt it will ever be finished. |
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pnh102
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said by Matt :That's the great thing about on-going tests, the conclusions and results can be updated as time goes on. Sounds a lot like the argument for Intelligent Design. 
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