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whizkid3
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May 7th, @02:27PM

reply to spy1
Re: Stop the FISA "back-room" deal

I would bet any amount, that had our administration not had the wisdom to invade Iraq in the fist place, that Ex-Guantanamo Inmate Blows Himself Up in Iraq would have never have happened.

For good measure, explain how changing the FISA laws is even remotely connected, or would have helped.


Name Game
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Since you are replying to Pete..I will let him play in your foxhole. And whoever else 'US' is that feels 'enlighten'. You connect dots like a broken record..
It always amazes me when one writer calls himself "US"..he always has a "Them" to blame all the problems on.


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May 7th, @02:47PM

said by Name Game See Profile :

Since you are replying to Pete...
I knew you must have a really good reason for why you wouldn't be willing to elaborate on the any of ideas you've generously shared with us.

Read it: »The Eternal Value of Privacy


Name Game
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said by whizkid3 See Profile :

said by Name Game See Profile :

Since you are replying to Pete...
I knew you must have a really good reason for why you wouldn't be willing to elaborate on the any of ideas you've generously shared with us.

Read it: »The Eternal Value of Privacy
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080507/ap_···e_bomber
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whizkid3
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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - A Kuwaiti freed from Guantanamo Bay carried out a suicide car bombing recently in Iraq, the U.S. military said Wednesday...
OK, that's one source. Do you have an independent source confirming the story? I'd take anything reported by the US military in Iraq with a grain of salt. It has been widely reported that they have been planting false stories.


Name Game
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Spin it like you want..fact is innocent people left this world when Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi pulled the plug..I value human life no matter where crackpots do their business. As you struggle to define the laws and rights that protect you and feel it is your birthright..The Protect America Act will still provide our intelligence community essential tools to acquire important information about terrorists who want to harm America, permits our intelligence professionals to more effectively collect foreign intelligence information on targets in foreign lands, and modernize FISA. The Protect America Act of 2007 (Pub.L. 110-55, S. 1927) was then signed into law by George W. Bush on 2007-08-05.

Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 1978 a U.S. federal law prescribing procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of "foreign intelligence information" between "foreign powers" and "agents of foreign powers" (which may include American citizens and permanent residents engaged in espionage and violating U.S. law.

"In February, 2008, the Senate passed the version of the new FISA that would allow telecom companies immunity. On March 13, 2008, the U.S. House of Representatives held a "secret session" to discuss related infomation. On March 14, the House passed a bill 213-197 that would not grant the immunity, not enough for the 2/3 majority required to override a Presidential veto. The Senate and House bills are compared and contrasted in a February 8, 2008 report from the Congressional Research Service."
»209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:qk···=1&gl=us

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_In···ance_Act

This thread is asking people to send some canned letter to their Congressmen based upon rhetoric from the ACLU and the news media. You keep on posting some link propoganda you want people to read.
Now I have posted a link to the ACTUAL difference between the version " compared and contrasted. " I am sure you have not read it..and doubt spy1 has either. I have..back when it was published in Feb. That in fact is the only issue that is left unresolved and, in fact, what was passed and agreed to by the Senate and House on the other issues are stronger than they were before. So I can assure you I am not..
- uneducated on the topic
- naive
- hoodwinked

Just so everyone understands....
Abdullah al-Ajmi took part in an attack in Mosul on 29 April that killed several people.

Ajmi and two other Kuwaitis blew up two explosive-packed vehicles next to Iraqi security forces, media reports say.

The US transferred Ajmi to Kuwaiti custody from Guantanamo Bay in 2005.

He was later acquitted by a Kuwaiti court of terrorism charges.
( you might want to check out why they were acquitted)
According to Kuwaiti and pan-Arab media reports, Ajmi and his two alleged accomplices, Nasir al-Dawsari and Badr al-Harbi, were able to leave Kuwait a month ago without alerting the attention of the authorities because they had wrongly been issued new passports.

They then travelled to Syria, where Ajmi is reported to have told his family of his intentions, before heading onto Iraq.

The families of Ajmi and Harbi reportedly later received anonymous calls informing them that the men had died in Iraq.

»news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7388762.stm

And all the crap you might read in the news about him now...These are the facts and the lies he told in your "courts". and his review process. He praised America..even for locking him up.
Abdallah Saleh Ali Al Ajmi
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdallah_S···_Al_Ajmi

So read his history..and believe it..and just think..those 4 bleeding hearts lawyers who defended him and his lies just might have put him right in your neighborhood if it was not for the military and the Intelligence gathering network that you want to cripple as you tell everyone they have enough power as far as you are concerned.
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woody7
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May 8th, @04:25PM

umm.....what part of the "FISA" bill is not working? nothing has changed, if I am not mistaken, even though it has sunsetted, it is still good for another year. The ONLY complaint the whithouse gives is that they CAN'T get blanket immunity for the phone companies that acted ILLEGALLY. Actually if we weren't in Iraq, there wouldn't be a suicide bomber there. We created the problem, there was no verifiable accounts of alqueda there before we got there. Before I spent one of my 2 tours in Vietnam, we were inundated with the same crap. If southeast asia falls, so will the rest of the world. It was bull$hit then as this war is. This one doesn't even pass the smell test. All you lap dogs for this administration need to take a deep breath. And oh yea I am a republican
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Name Game
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said by woody7 See Profile :

And oh yea I am a republican
They are on a list too someplace..but you can take pills for it.
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