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| I see two games I won't be buying now. It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? |
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 jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | i highly agree. the company can come and go and the legit user loses. so they will need to crack the software later if the company goes under. this hurts the legit gamers not the people who copy and are not legit.
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said by ender7074:It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? But then how do you suggest that the developers of these games get paid? If the losses in console sales are so much less because of the inherent difficulty in "cracking" games to allow non-purchased copies to work, why shouldn't developers abandon the PC based gaming market entirely?
Until and unless the PC gaming crowd realises that you have to pay to get the play in sufficent numbers, I can well imagine a day where PC gaming no longer exists as a viable target market...
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CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO | reply to ender7074
This is what I really don't understand.
Why should I pay $40 or $50 for a crippled version of the game when the version without all the DRM is free? Don't they understand that the more they punish people who actually want to give them money, they only drive more and more people into piracy?
EA...listen up! I WANT to give you my money! Quit punishing me for it!
One silver lining: apparently you won't need to put in the DVD every time you want to play. That's an even stupider means of copy protection, especially in these days of Alcohol 120%. A PC is not a console. I bought a large hard drive for a freaking reason!
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CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO | reply to NefCanuck
said by NefCanuck:Until and unless the PC gaming crowd realises that you have to pay to get the play in sufficent numbers, I can well imagine a day where PC gaming no longer exists as a viable target market... I call BS...Back in the day when I played games on my Commodore 64 in my parents' basement (no, it wasn't just last year...  ) just about everything I had was cracked and pirated.
Piracy was rampant on the C=64 platform all through the '80s and into the '90s. Yet somehow EA itself managed to make enough money to grow into the behemoth it is today on the strength of games like M.U.L.E. and Archon.
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join:2005-05-17 | reply to Corydon
The only game I've ever downloaded a crack for was Morrowind. A game I legitimately purchased. (Plus both expansions too.) I didn't want to copy it or pirate it, and I've never distributed it to anyone at all, ever. All I wanted was to kill off the copy protection that demanded I dig out the CD and stick it in every time I wanted to play the game, and deal with the protection that was constantly running slowing down my system (which struggled to run Morrowind at that time anyway).
I don't pirate games. I don't want them for free. As the poster above me stated, I WANT to pay the companies and the developers of the game. But this sort of thing makes me just not buy the game at all. I was ready to dive headlong into Sims 2 before I saw the hoops I'd have to jump through to deal with DRM. As a result, I've chosen to go without it, and those developers aren't going to get my money. It's sad, because I probably would have enjoyed it.
Am I in a minority? Possibly. Hell, probably. But the innocents end up suffering just as much for the sins of the guilty. I don't want to steal games and I want the workers to earn a living from them. But when I have to deal with this sort of crap, the only people who really lose out are those same developers.
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| reply to NefCanuck
said by NefCanuck:said by ender7074:It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? But then how do you suggest that the developers of these games get paid? If the losses in console sales are so much less because of the inherent difficulty in "cracking" games to allow non-purchased copies to work, why shouldn't developers abandon the PC based gaming market entirely? Until and unless the PC gaming crowd realises that you have to pay to get the play in sufficent numbers, I can well imagine a day where PC gaming no longer exists as a viable target market... NefCanuck I believe that the piracy excuse is overinflated. Yes, some people do pirate but the vast majority probably doesnt. Also, like with any other thief, the people that are pirating the game with no intention to buy is not a lost sale. It was never a sale to begin with. If a game is good, it will make money. Too much blame is set on piracy when a game doesnt sell. |
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | reply to ender7074
said by ender7074:It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? BINGO! DRM only hurts the honest person.
i guess the work around would be to buy the game then download the crack/patch.
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said by Corydon:said by NefCanuck:Until and unless the PC gaming crowd realises that you have to pay to get the play in sufficent numbers, I can well imagine a day where PC gaming no longer exists as a viable target market... I call BS...Back in the day when I played games on my Commodore 64 in my parents' basement (no, it wasn't just last year... ) just about everything I had was cracked and pirated. Piracy was rampant on the C=64 platform all through the '80s and into the '90s. Yet somehow EA itself managed to make enough money to grow into the behemoth it is today on the strength of games like M.U.L.E. and Archon. Ah but unlike back then, EA didn't have the option of the console market because at the time, consoles were far less powerful & plentiful than they are today. They ate the losses and moved on.
Now however they can simply say "scrap the PC gaming market, we're going with something more inherently secure and less prone to piracy" is that what we want as PC gamers? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the thinking behind a non-simultaneous release of GTA IV for the PC. Console piracy being so much less an issue, why do you think the games makers made, what was it, $500M USD so far? Release it first on PC, you get nowhere near those numbers IMO.
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 kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to dvd536
said by dvd536:said by ender7074:It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? BINGO! DRM only hurts the honest person. i guess the work around would be to buy the game then download the crack/patch. But then again nothing happens to their bottom line.
No, we should not buy the game, period. I have plenty of games, I always buy all of them and I was looking forward buying this game as well but implementing this 'every 10th fuckin days' is simply a breathtaking arrogance, especially in a single-player-only game - as a result of this typical EA arrogance I WILL NEVER BUY THIS GAME, PERIOD.
The only way you can tell 'fuck off' to these clueless, arrogant, corporate parasites at EA is by NOT BUYING THE GAME.
If you really want to play it simply get a pirated copy, even if you oppose piracy - it will send the correct message, trust me.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to NefCanuck
said by NefCanuck:
said by ender7074:It's really too bad. I'd have liked to play Spore but this DRM bs is getting out of hand. The pirates will crack it in a matter of days if not hours. All this is going to do is piss off legitimate buyers of the game. Didn't these idiots learn anything from Bioshock? But then how do you suggest that the developers of these games get paid? If the losses in console sales are so much less because of the inherent difficulty in "cracking" games to allow non-purchased copies to work, why shouldn't developers abandon the PC based gaming market entirely?
Ohhh, PLEAHHHHHSE.  It has NOTHING TO DO with devs bottom line, it's EA'S BOTTOM LINE.
Time to read about gamwe development a bit so you will realize it's always the fuckin' parasites, the moneymen who pushes devs into these DRM-infested swamp which provokes immediate retaliation from cracker groups.
Careful, this FAKE argument is one of the classic corporate troll arguments.
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Until and unless the PC gaming crowd realises that you have to pay to get the play in sufficent numbers, I can well imagine a day where PC gaming no longer exists as a viable target market...
NefCanuck
Another 'pleahhhhse.' PC market was the same during the 90s, with even more groups doing their 'thing' in the scene yet studios were making more money - WTF are you talking about?
Studios leave the PC market for the ease of the console development (fixed hw, fixed sw etc), even if its inherently an inferior system and the sheer size of the console gaming market, not because PC gaming piracy, that's an utter BS spread by EA and other parasites.
If every one leaves? Hell yes, fine - than others will take their place because PC IS and INHERENTLY always WILL BE the most advanced system for gaming, no question about it - its very openness that makes it harder to work with also provides the edge over console platforms.
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