qweens233
@rr.com | [TWC] too many IP resets = TWC blocks your connection
weird
had to call to Tier 3 to clear it out... |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | What's an "IP Reset"? Do you mean DHCP release and renew?
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Lowtarget
15Mbps Roadrash
Premium
join:2003-12-22
Alger, OH
clubs:
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| said by djrobx  :What's an "IP Reset"? Do you mean DHCP release and renew? Yep, thats it. |
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pcdebb
Buttercup sees you
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
clubs:  | reply to qweens233
that's odd. I hooked up Feb 2 of this year, and only had my IP reset once, and that was because the power went out. |
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TransitMan
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join:2000-09-05
Dayton, OH
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·RoadRunner Cable
·Earthlink TrueVoice
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| said by pcdebb :that's odd. I hooked up Feb 2 of this year, and only had my IP reset once, and that was because the power went out. I've been hooked up since July last year and still have the same IP. (Maybe I just jinxed myself!!  )
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A Non Name
@rr.com | reply to qweens233
How many it too many? I run Linux LiveCDs all the time and my ip is constantly changing.
I want to know for future reference. |
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qweens233
@rr.com | reply to qweens233
don't remember exactly, maybe about 10 in 1-1.5 hour? |
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executor04
join:2004-05-18
Kew Gardens, NY | I usually get a new ip every 2 years? lol |
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tiger72
NexaT duorP
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join:2001-03-28
Kansas City, MO
clubs: | reply to qweens233
said by qweens233 :
don't remember exactly, maybe about 10 in 1-1.5 hour?
Why so many resets? I have a few ideas, but i'll let you elaborate... |
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qweens233
@rr.com
| reply to qweens233
i frequently like to go to forums such as this and curse people out for being stupid,
then ip gets banned,
its lotta fun, but running to the other corner of the room, reaching around the back to unplug the cord of the modem, then rushing back to my desk to enter new mac in the router takes a toll on my joints...it good exercise though |
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Vchat20
Bother me....and DIE
join:2003-09-16
Warren, OH
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
May 9th, @03:20PM
| reply to qweens233
A simple DHCP release and renew will not get you a new ip due to the way DHCP works. It's that simple. If the ip you have is unused and you renew, it's gonna give it right back.
The only way to get a new ip is to have a brand new MAC address on the CPE side of the modem since this is the only thing Time Warner's DHCP servers see. The modem's docsis mac is only given to the CMTS for authentication. Using a new MAC requires a hard reboot of the modem due partly to the fact that they only allow one ip/machine to be connected and it takes that procedure to clear the existing MAC from the modem.
All quite simple really. And no, I've never heard of TWC blocking you for 'too many ip resets'. Though if it's too excessive, it's certainly possible. Not SURE if they have policy for this, but it's not unthinkable.
Also, qweens: I sure hope you do not do that kind of thing on a daily basis. It's people like you with that attitude that make it difficult not only for site administrators, but visitors as well. Why not take a little less of a nasty attitude and take part in healthy flameless debates like most?
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j0nnyb1aze
join:2004-07-22
Hudson, FL
·ViaTalk
| reply to A Non Name
said by A Non Name :
How many it too many? I run Linux LiveCDs all the time and my ip is constantly changing.
I want to know for future reference.
Huh? what does running LiveCD's have to do w/ getting a new IP. Thats determined by the MAC addy of your modem. |
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BurntCricket
Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do
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Here
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| reply to qweens233
Umm IP resets ?? Your IP should never change unless changing the item connected to your Modem, in the real world it never changes.
Maybe if you said why you are having so many resets, could be the "system" sees all these re-sets and triggers a fault disconnect.
I have had the same IP# for so long I couldn't tell you the last time it changed without be causing it.
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A Non Name
@rr.com
| reply to j0nnyb1aze
@ j0nnyb1aze
Nope not really. I can change the MAC address of my network interface card (not the modem) and it'll cause a new IP to be generated.
You can do the same in Windows. Release the IP, unplug the modem for 5 minutes, change the NIC's MAC address, plug the modem back in...and boom, new IP.
Running a LiveCD essentially does the same. It detects the hardware as being new and requests updated info. I don't know the internals, but it does work.
Anyway, back to the topic of this post. The more I think about it, the more I belive it to be BS. It's not like generating new IPs is taxing their servers. It's just a number, what do they care? |
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qweens233
@rr.com
| reply to qweens233
this is how it happened,
so, at most i changed 10 IPs in 1 hour,
i change mac, unplug modem (only needs a couple seconds not minutes), replug modem.
at the last one, all 4 lights of the modem were on - like normal, but internet wasnt working, so i thought it was either a bad MAC or i screwed up the modem, so then i plugged straight into the computer and changed mac, replug-plug modem - the modem status page would update like normal, but then after a couple seconds it wouldn't connect to the modem at all- windows would report limited connection etc, i tried alternate DNS, more MACs then gaveup called TWC
i just said "oh my internet is not working"
tier 1: unplug modem, restart computer (i just said i was doing it)
tier 2: same , didnt know what tier 1 did...
tier 3: didnt know what anything happend, had to give account info again.
then i tell tier 3: "my internet is not working"
he says: oh hmm, unplug modem, restart everything,
i did it this time,
he says: ok i see your modem etc , oh hmmmm, seems like you pulled 10 IPs...
i'm like "oh hmmm really?"
he says : do you pay for 10 IPs ?
i go "uhm, no, just 1"
he says "so i'm clearing this out..."
then my internet started working again. so thats it, they block too many IP changes in a short time. |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI | You really need to just start using proxies. It's easier anyway. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner VOIP
·DSL EXTREME
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May 11th, @12:16AM
| reply to qweens233
quote:
so, at most i changed 10 IPs in 1 hour,
I see. That's unsurprising actually. Your modem's config file limits your communication such that only one MAC (effectively, one machine) can communicate at a time. However, their DHCP server is a separate entity, and isn't informed when you power-cycle the modem. Under normal circumstances your old IP leases will just expire off so they just set a high limit (looks like 10) to prevent someone with a misconfigured modem from running away with all their IPs.
Had you just waited a while it probably would have fixed itself as your old IPs expired. |
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Vchat20
Bother me....and DIE
join:2003-09-16
Warren, OH
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| Bingo. The only thing their DHCP servers see are the MAC's on the LAN side of the modem pulling the ip's. These DHCP servers have limited ip pools and unlike your LAN, they cost Time Warner for those limited public addresses. You pulling these ip's with fresh mac's in a limited time frame quickly eats up those available ip's before they can expire regardless of the fact it's the same modem. It's not surprising that pulling 10 within a mere hour caught their attention.
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