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<title>Re: Yet another HD complaint thread in Verizon FIOS TV</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1474562"><b>Mark F</b></A> : Like many others, I love TV, and there are plenty of HD shows I enjoy watching, such as- Cold Case, CSI Miami, NCIS, Criminal Minds, Heroes, CSI NY, Boston Legal, Lost, Shark, CSI, Without A Trace, ER, Ghost Whisperer, Moonlight, Mumb3rs, Jericho, The Unit, L&O, Jay Leno. I'm glad we have a DVR, but I wish I could record (or even watch) Stargate Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica in HD. I also like the Colts and I'm looking forward to the debut of the Lucas Oil Stadium on NBC's Sunday Night Football season premier.  <br><br>But, I just got through watching a season 3 episode of Hawaii Five-0 on DVD. And now, Burke's Law is on TV. And, later I may watch some classic TV over the internet, from MSN TV, HULU, AOL, CBS, etc. So, being a big TV fan, I'm all for Verizon adding the HD and SD channels we've requested.<br><br>Yes, I understand that when some people get an HD set, they very seldom watch anything that's not HD, not even SD-only programs that they previously loved to watch.  <br><br>That's why I'm glad there's something for everyone who enjoys TV, no matter how they enjoy it. Mark F.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1452034"><b>harley3k</b></A> : <br>It is pointless to say that most channels will not have 24/7 HD content, because no one ever watches one channel all the time.<br><br>The point is that if the flagship shows you watch are in HD, then that 1 or 2 hours per week that you actually watch that channel is all that matters.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:18:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1041142"><b>Smiles</b></A> : CNBC HD is not irrelevant, unless you don't watch it in the first place.  They use the extra real estate to pack more financial information on the screen.  Definitely one of the top five channels I'm looking for.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cnbc.com/id/20996011/" >www.cnbc.com/id/20996011/</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:56:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1064492"><b>Ph8te</b></A> : I have to agree with you about the Golf, once you watch it in HD you wont want to watch it in SD again.  The difference is almost sickening......<br><br>As far as HD programming goes, the providers are adding more and more all the time.  If the content isnt available then they cant show it......Even the dreaded TBS has started to show their Prime Time shows in HD (Office, ELR, even The Family Guy looks better).......Its happening slowly, but more and more HD content will be available and will begin to filter down so that it is shown more often....For me the more HD the better...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1474562"><b>Mark F</b></A> : Ok, you have a point, besides an up-converting DVD player could make SD shows look better.  And, maybe an HD transfer would be almost (but not quite) like "magically turning SD into HD". Which would be nice, as there are a good many shows- such as Get Smart, Mannix, Rockford Files, Space 1999, Hill Street Blues, etc.- that I'd love to see shown with near HD quality (or as close as possible). <br><br>But, I was mostly echoing what Baff said about there being a lot of SD programming out there. And, as long as people enjoy such shows, I think there always will be. <br><br>As for golf being "fast paced", I was referring to a small while ball sailing through the air, which might be easier to follow in HD. <br><br>Anyway, since I love watching HD (but not only HD), I'm for more HD, coexisting with SD, so everyone has a choice. Mark F.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:50:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/867315"><b>jchuan83388</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matcarl <A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Thanks Savvy, too bad they are counting a PPV Event channel among them. <br> </div>I am glad that they will have HD PPV Events.  As a boxing fan coming from DirecTV a couple of years back, it's been hard watching the fights in SD.  I am sure that there are a bunch of MMA and even WWE fans that are looking forward to watching PPV events in HD! :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/744594"><b>wmcbrine</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mark F <A HREF="/useremail/u/1474562"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>And there are a lot of shows in SD that will always be popular (see link).<br>...<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/Fugitive_S2V1_final.jpg" >www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/ne&middot;&middot;&middot;inal.jpg</A></div>I'd agree with the point, but that's a bad example. That show was shot on film, surely? Which means they can do an HD transfer at some point.<br><small>--<br>09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:40:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/907119"><b>srickard</b></A> : "But, many people on here are into very fast paced action (more than the average viewer is), which they would like to watch in HD- hockey, tennis, golf, etc- which may be easier to follow in HD."<br><br>Golf is fast paced action??  :huh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:32:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1474562"><b>Mark F</b></A> : If one person wants a channel for just one show, then another person wants a different channel for just one show, on and on, that makes little sense. It seems that if you took all these shows and put them all on one channel, you'd have plenty of time leftover. But, maybe the purpose of having channels with just a couple of "must watch" shows, is to keep those channels alive and people tuning in untill more HD programming is available.<br><br>But, as Baff said, many channels will never be SD. And, one of the reasons we have FIOS is that they offer channels that Comcast doesn't, many with lots of SD- Boomerang is one that comes to mind. Having an HD set hasn't made me forsake some of my favorite SD shows. According to the TV Shows On DVD website, older shows on DVD are quite popular, as well. <br><br>But, many people on here are into very fast paced action (more than the average viewer is), which they would like to watch in HD- hockey, tennis, golf, etc- which may be easier to follow in HD. <br><br>So, the more HD the merrier. But, as Baff said, you can't magically turn SD into HD. And there are a lot of shows in SD that will always be popular (see link). Hopefully there's room for all popular shows, no matter when they were made. Mark F.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/Fugitive_S2V1_final.jpg" >www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/ne&middot;&middot;&middot;inal.jpg</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:21:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/541377"><b>Hajman</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Hound <A HREF="/useremail/u/1337715"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Most HD cable channels are built around one HD program.<br>People generally want an HD channel to watch one program. </div>Maybe you are right but I can't say that I agree with your assertion.  If you are right, I guess I think that business model (building an entire channel around one HD program) and mind set (wanting an HD channel for one program) is odd and not sustainable.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:11:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1337715"><b>Hound</b></A> : Most HD cable channels are built around one HD program.<br>People generally want an HD channel to watch one program.<br>We will take TBS for an example. A lot of people only want<br>TBS for baseball playoffs and Sunday afternoon baseball.<br>A lot of people only want Sci Fi for Battlestar Galactica.<br>Other people want USA for wrestling or Versus for ice hockey. They do not care if the rest of the programming is stretch o vision. If you have time to watch the stretch o vision or talk about it, you have too much time on your hands.<br><br>I have Directv and Dish Network as well as Fios, so I already have all these channels. And I only watch the HD programming that I want to watch. I did not miss the baseball playoffs in HD last year or the hockey season in HD on Versus or MLB EI in HD.<br><br>It is exciting to get the HD. I understand why folks are<br>frustrated. I could not wait.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:19:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/541377"><b>Hajman</b></A> : Thanks for the corrections - I thought there would be some.  However, I think you just backed up my point.  Of all the channels slated to be added, very few (maybe 3/4 - USA, Sci-Fi, Versus/Golf and mahybe TBS) are in the "I need to have it in HD now and if I don't I'm going to be mad" category.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:50:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1469403"><b>afiggatt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Hajman <A HREF="/useremail/u/541377"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>HD Irrelevant: ESPNews, CNN, Weather Channel, CNBC<br><br>Filled with Stretch-O-Vision: Animal Planet, TBS, The History Channel, The Learning Channel, USA, Lifetime, Bravo, SCI FI<br><br>Extra subscription channels for which a HD channel already exists: Showtime West, Cinemax West, HBO West<br><br>Channels I know nothing about: MOJO, The Science Channel, Starz Edge, Starz Comed, Starz Kids and Family, Outdoor Channel, Smithsonian<br><br>Perhaps some of my classifications are wrong, but beyond Versus / Golf, baseball playoffs on TBS and very little  original programming on Sci Fi (like BSG - that I don't watch) and other channels, I don't get why people are so amped about adding HD channels NOW. </div> You are more than a little off-base here. USA-HD, Sci-Fi HD are not stretch-o-vision channels. Both of them have gotten praise for a fair amount of true HD. TBS-HD started showing some real HD programming other than baseball at the beginning of April; however it is a stretch-o-vision channel.<br><br>CNN-HD - all the studio programming out of New York is in HD which would nice for watching the primary returns tonight. CNN specials have been in HD. Weather Channel is starting up their new all HD studio at the beginning of June - just in time for hurricane season but just a coincidence I'm sure ;).<br><br>Smithsonian is all HD. Very repetitive, but it is HD. Mojo is all HD; used to be InHD1.<br><br> yes, not everything on the missing HD channels will be HD. But a lot of the new programs people want to watch will be. People are getting frustrated because their local cable company has added some of the more useful HD channels, but nothing so far from Verizon. So rumor, speculation, and unsubstantiated posts rule the day.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:05:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1509282"><b>Baff</b></A> : Hajman, I am most interested in Sci-Fi, USA and Bravo.  Sci-Fi channel does not stretch, though they do show some SD content.  Sci-Fi is currently airing the final season of Battlestar Galactica which is definitely in HD.  I'm sure some of the other shows I watch are in HD too.<br><br>I don't know about the stretching habits of USA or Bravo, but if even 1 of the shows I watch on those channels are in non-stretched HD, then I want those HD channels as soon as possible.  Seems pretty simple to me.  It's not like waiting is going to make any of these channels become 100% non-stretched HD faster.  In fact, many channels will never be 100% HD.  They can't magically make shows that were filmed in SD become HD.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/275993"><b>darcilicious</b></A> : <br>Original programming on USA/SciFi that I think is available in HD or in 16:9 aspect ratio / widescreen at least: Monk, Eureka, Psych, BSG (I do watch it), Burn Notice (I think), Star Trek: Enterprise, Stargate Atlantis, L&O: CI, In Plain Sight (I'm assuming) and more that I can't think of at the moment.<br><br>And of course, that list will grow over time. I'd rather get the HD channels now and watch that list than be on the sidelines any longer for the above shows.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:00:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/541377"><b>Hajman</b></A> : But ESPNews is just highlights and super annoying talking heads speaking ESPNonics.  For me at least, I'll rarely watch it and don't really care if it is HD.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1248901"><b>jankm</b></A> : ESPNews HD is on ESPN2HD in the mornings and its excellent. The picture is always HD because they have set up the on-screen graphics that way. Most highlights are now HD so ESPNews is in HD almost all the time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/541377"><b>Hajman</b></A> : Question for all the posters to this thread - why the clamor for adding all the HD channels ASAP?  Won't a ton of the content on the HD channels to be added still be in SD or stretch 'o vision.<br><br>Here is how I see it:<br><br>HD Irrelevant: ESPNews, CNN, Weather Channel, CNBC<br><br>Filled with Stretch-O-Vision: Animal Planet, TBS, The History Channel, The Learning Channel, USA, Lifetime, Bravo, SCI FI<br><br>Extra subscription channels for which a HD channel already exists: Showtime West, Cinemax West, HBO West<br><br>Sports: Big Ten Network, Versus / Golf <br> <br>Channels I know nothing about: MOJO, The Science Channel, Starz Edge, Starz Comed, Starz Kids and Family, Outdoor Channel, Smithsonian<br><br>Perhaps some of my classifications are wrong, but beyond Versus / Golf, baseball playoffs on TBS and very little  original programming on Sci Fi (like BSG - that I don't watch) and other channels, I don't get why people are so amped about adding HD channels NOW.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:15:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1509282"><b>Baff</b></A> : The only HD channel I care about that isn't on the list is BBC America HD.  They have been advertising that it is going to launch soon, but they haven't given a date yet (as far as I know).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : Starz Kids & Family]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1517020"><b>Max1</b></A> : Your right, Matcarl.  Big Ten Network HD is on the list.  What's that Family HD channel?  Isn't that the HD version of ABC Family channel?  I'm not familiar with that channel.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : Big Ten is on the list and ABC Family isn't]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1517020"><b>Max1</b></A> : That's a good list of channels.  I can't wait.<br>Here are some HD channels we will still be missing after July:<br>Bio. HD, Cartoon Network HD, Disney Channel HD, Toon Disney HD, Nick HD, FX HD, Spike HD, Speed HD, Fox Business Network HD, Fuel TV HD, Tennis Channel HD, VH1 HD, MTV HD, CMT HD, NHL Network HD, NBA TV HD, MGM HD, Big Ten Network HD.<br><br>I would have substituted Outdoor Channel HD, Lifetime HD East, and ABC Family HD with FX HD, Spike HD, & Speed HD.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:54:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1344901"><b>PoloDude</b></A> : That list by savvy is correct.<br>time frame is end of July. This year!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1106849"><b>Nezmo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  frankpf3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>1.) He gave the list of HD channels to me.<br>2.) Nice productive post.<br>3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money.<br></div>Chill.  Just a little joke bud.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/nezmo">My Gallery</a><br><A HREF="http://www.myspace.com/neilvwhite">MySpace</a><br>Formerly Nezmo ;-)</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1429115"><b>jvanbrecht</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  frankpf3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money.<br> </div>How dare you expect a giant corporation to give you the most for your money.. you should be flogged without mercy.... :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><b>frankpf3</b></A> : 1.) He gave the list of HD channels to me.<br>2.) Nice productive post.<br>3.) Excuse me for wanting the most for my money.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1106849"><b>Nezmo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  frankpf3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>What's the channel list?<br> </div>Does it matter?  You know you'll be last to get them... :D<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/nezmo">My Gallery</a><br><A HREF="http://www.myspace.com/neilvwhite">MySpace</a><br>Formerly Nezmo ;-)</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : Why list NBA when it doesn't start until September? Those are dead channels in the summer. Verizon is adding more HD at the beginning of October, maybe then they will include it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:38:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Hound <A HREF="/useremail/u/1337715"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>It sounds like the real thing. MLB EI and NHL CI share the same 14 channels on In Demand. NBA LP is on different channels. So Savvy got that correct.<br><br>I just hope Verizon provides GameHD which is part of the MLB EI/NHL CI package. GameHD is part of the carriage agreement and is free. Comcast has made a bonehead decision<br>not to provide GameHD. Without GameHD the MLB EI/NHL CI package is not very good. Most people who sub to MLB EI/NHL CI have HD and want GameHD. The sports packages are useless<br>without HD channels. <br> </div>I realize how hopeful you are about getting these services, but you need to read both Savvy's and my posts more closely.<br><br>There is no League Pass listed, and I know from having read the contracts that they can't launch the MLB/NHL channels without the NBA channels (10 at least, plus NBATV) - which aren't listed.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:34:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1337715"><b>Hound</b></A> : It sounds like the real thing. MLB EI and NHL CI share the same 14 channels on In Demand. NBA LP is on different channels. So Savvy got that correct.<br><br>I just hope Verizon provides GameHD which is part of the MLB EI/NHL CI package. GameHD is part of the carriage agreement and is free. Comcast has made a bonehead decision<br>not to provide GameHD. Without GameHD the MLB EI/NHL CI package is not very good. Most people who sub to MLB EI/NHL CI have HD and want GameHD. The sports packages are useless<br>without HD channels. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:16:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> :  I had to call Verizon about a billing problem (shock!) last Friday. The rep was very nice and we got to chatting about Verizon TV. I asked her what the story was with HD and She told me they are being swamped with calls complaining about more HD channels. She said just Friday, she had 12 calls herself about more HD channels and, as she said, that was even before she had lunch.<br> So, there are calls being made and being logged. Hopefully, they will listen. Personally, I have more faith in Verizon than Comcast as far as listening to people's complaints.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:43:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : if it were real, it would have both Center Ice and League Pass - neither of which should be expected in the first round of adds]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:32:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1544681"><b>RKO 316</b></A> : Is this information about the HD channels real or just channels that you want?<br><br>I can't seem to find any news about that might be fake or made up.  :(]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:30:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1516934"><b>FIOS MAN</b></A> : Yeah, I know...Same ole' story!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:26:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><b>frankpf3</b></A> : Good job savvy.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:24:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : Thanks Savvy, too bad they are counting a PPV Event channel among them. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:05:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1522086"><b>lets456</b></A> : When and how?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:03:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  FIOS MAN <A HREF="/useremail/u/1516934"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Matt....<br><br>Is this a rumor or a reliable source?? Where is this coming from ?<br> </div>Pretty reliable, however since the date is still so far out, you know how it could change.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:56:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/275993"><b>darcilicious</b></A> : What I really want to know if all these channels are going to be added primarily to the existing Premier package, other packages, and/or will there be new packages created...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:54:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1476706"><b>frankpf3</b></A> : What's the channel list?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:51:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1516934"><b>FIOS MAN</b></A> : Matt....<br><br>Is this a rumor or a reliable source?? Where is this coming from ?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:38:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1522086"><b>lets456</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  tew1165 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1516794"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>afiggatt, you make some good points. I'm assuming the rollout would be national simply because Verizon seems to treat FIOS TV as more of a national product than the cable companies do, but I did not realize the last of the analog shutdowns was scheduled for October. It would be painful waiting that long. Here's hoping it happens much sooner.<br><br>FMR VZMAN, do you have any information? I realize you're no longer with Verizon but you always seem to be able to clarify things on these boards.<br> </div>HD VOD was added on a "market by market" basis. Some had it a few months before others....So what makes you think that Verizon will change things with the HD roll out?<br><br>I think it's going to be "market by market"....the same way they shut off analog. They made a promise to several "news sources" and if they roll out HD in only one market by late spring, then technically they kept their word.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:28:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : 26 HD & 48 SD added between July 23 & 31 with more to follow in October.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:06:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1516794"><b>tew1165</b></A> : afiggatt, you make some good points. I'm assuming the rollout would be national simply because Verizon seems to treat FIOS TV as more of a national product than the cable companies do, but I did not realize the last of the analog shutdowns was scheduled for October. It would be painful waiting that long. Here's hoping it happens much sooner.<br><br>FMR VZMAN, do you have any information? I realize you're no longer with Verizon but you always seem to be able to clarify things on these boards.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:54:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1469403"><b>afiggatt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  tew1165 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1516794"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think Verizon is going to have to wait until all VHO's are digital and turn on all new channels at the same time. Can you imagine the outcry if a couple VHO's get all this new HD and no one else does? Verizon's customer service lines would be jammed with complaints from customers who haven't yet gotten the new channels. I just can't imagine anything but a national rollout of the new channels all at once. </div> Well, Comcast, Time Warner, and the cable companies roll out new HD channels on a market by market basis. (Heck, there are Comcast franchises that still have no HD channels at all). Why should Verizon be different? Yes, those of us who read dslreports & avsforum are aware that Verizon currently has the same national SD & HD channel line-up (with a few exceptions) in all markets. But most subscribers probably do not and don't care. All they care about is what channels they get.<br><br> If Verizon waits until all VHOs are all digital, we will not get any new HD channels until October. The schedule posted months ago has Texas analog shutdown starting on Sept. 22 and so far they appear to be sticking reasonably close to that schedule. But Fios has only 40 analog channels at most. Verizon may be adding QAM channel capacity ahead of the analog shutdown in some markets so they can add some HD channels. We don't know for sure.<br><br> If I had a buck for every post here claiming the 1st set of new HD channels would be added in April, May, June, July, August or never, I could use the money to sign up for Comcast for 6 months and get CNN-HD & Sci-Fi HD in over re-compressed HD. :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:52:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1516794"><b>tew1165</b></A> : Oh, and one other thing. Since in my opinion the new HD rollout will have to be national, that means no one will get the new HD until that last of the VHO's have been upgraded, probably sometime in June or July.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:44:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1516794"><b>tew1165</b></A> : I think Verizon is going to have to wait until all VHO's are digital and turn on all new channels at the same time. Can you imagine the outcry if a couple VHO's get all this new HD and no one else does? Verizon's customer service lines would be jammed with complaints from customers who haven't yet gotten the new channels. I just can't imagine anything but a national rollout of the new channels all at once.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:30:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197971"><b>amarryat</b></A> : Very nice!  I will look forward to at least a bit more HD programming.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:26:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/315084"><b>keyboards</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matcarl <A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I don't think that's the case now. I think they are shooting for everyone the last week of July, 26 HD's<br> </div>I realize that the date has probably moved, that's why I put the spring 2008 in quotes ;-)<br><small>--<br>REMEMBER: Stupidity should be painful !!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:25:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : Yes 26 in addition to what we have. No word yet on the numbering system]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:21:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197971"><b>amarryat</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matcarl <A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I don't think that's the case now. I think they are shooting for everyone the last week of July, 26 HD's<br> </div>26 in addition to what we already have?<br><br>Where are they going to squeeze them?  Is there going to be renumbering?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:20:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1444888"><b>matcarl</b></A> : I don't think that's the case now. I think they are shooting for everyone the last week of July, 26 HD's]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:18:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/315084"><b>keyboards</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  kirk1233 <A HREF="/useremail/u/859462"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Why do they need to give it to the entire country at the same time?  If Pittsburgh and other markets are all digital already why not deploy as headends are capable?<br> </div>IIRC the original press release from Verizon (claiming added channels by "Spring 2008") said it would be added on a per market basis - indicating a staged roll out by VHO.<br><small>--<br>REMEMBER: Stupidity should be painful !!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1522086"><b>lets456</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  kirk1233 <A HREF="/useremail/u/859462"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Why do they need to give it to the entire country at the same time?  If Pittsburgh and other markets are all digital already why not deploy as headends are capable?<br> </div>Speculation...nobody really knows. Anyone that posts time frames are really just taking a guess....take it with a grain of salt. The only post I have seen that has "some merit" was from a Verizon employee that said some time in mid June for the markets that are all digital at this time.....But, I'm not holding my breath.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/859462"><b>kirk1233</b></A> : Why do they need to give it to the entire country at the same time?  If Pittsburgh and other markets are all digital already why not deploy as headends are capable?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1522086"><b>lets456</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  psbny <A HREF="/useremail/u/555731"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The thing that is taking so long is the conversion of FiOS to all digital throughout the country.  Once the whole country is all digital Vz will quickly add additional programming.  I believe something like 48 more SD channels and 26 HD channels towards the end of July.<br> </div>I have heard Mid-June, Late August, late July......I honestly think it's all speculation. If it ain't here by September I'll look at other options. I'd love to have more HD, but any "timelines" for HD are purely speculation. Nobody really knows. Just like HD VOD, we'll wake up one morning and it will be there.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/555731"><b>psbny</b></A> : The thing that is taking so long is the conversion of FiOS to all digital throughout the country.  Once the whole country is all digital Vz will quickly add additional programming. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:35:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <br>Seriously...<br><br>Even Bermuda CableVision is rolling out new HD Channels (read on engadgetHD)<br>What the frack is taking Verizon so long?<br><br>Go ahead and lock the thread.]]></description>
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