Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk in All things Macintosh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20454933 en Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:42:20 EDT Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:42:20 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20456657 SK : Here's what I did to create AFP shares on FreeBSD, sorta related: »Installing PC-BSD, would like to create AFP share & »[OS X] Can time machine use a NAS?

It was working beautifully but I haven't set it up again when I changed over from PC-BSD to FreeBSD 7. I guess I'll get it working again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20456657 Fri, 09 May 2008 11:48:57 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20456580 nixen :
said by deblin See Profile :

So yours is working over NFS? I need to figure out what's up with FreeBSD's rpc.lockd so I can use NFS instead. Although SMB is working fine so far.
Nah... SMB. And it's slow as balls. Once it completes the initial sync, I'll see if I can dismount the SMB share and remount as NFS. I'm just a touch concerned that, if I do so, the Mac GUI may or may not let me set the NFS parameters that I need to to make the NFS connection perform well. Having worked with my ReadyNAS and my Sun machines, the ReadyNAS really benefits from forcing it to communicate with a specific set of communication parameters rather than letting it "negotiate" the connection.
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»hillaryis404.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20455885 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:51:34 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20455143 nixen : Hmm... Pretty much of a slam dunk to set up. My only catch was, I had to remember that I have my hostname set up as an FQDN rather than a shortname. The backup program *really* cares about that in the bundle/file name.
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netatalk does have some quirks, so if samba is working well, just stick with that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454952 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:34:04 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454936 deblin : Oh cool, thanks! I'll see if the reliability is ok for the SMB share and failing that, I'll just install the netatalk port on FreeBSD and use that.

To be clear, the shared directory on AFP does NOT have to be a dedicated disk or an HFS/HFS+ filesystem does it? You said you were sharing from Linux, so just an ext3 or other native Linux filesystem?
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»hillaryis404.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454936 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:29:03 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454934 Thinkdiff : Nope. Since 10.5.2, Time Machine supports AFP shares. It created the sparseimage and all that automatically. At most, you'd have to run the defaults command to change the Time Machine preferences to show unsupported disks, but I don't think I even had to do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454934 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:27:36 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454933 deblin : I think you need to do similar hacks to get it to work with AFP, too, don't you? As far as creating the sparse file and such. Samba is already running on my network for my XP laptop, so it was already there.
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»hillaryis404.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454933 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:26:09 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454927 Thinkdiff : Why not just use netatalk to make an AFP share?

I have that running on my Linux box and my mom's iMac backs up to it every hour on the dot. No problems whatsoever, and no strange setup either. I'm even able to set quotas so the backups don't take up my entire drive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454927 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:23:35 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454899 deblin : Well, Leopard does not seem to like FreeBSD's rpc.lockd (and I found a few threads mentioning similar problems with Linux's lockd).

So, I tried a samba mount instead. It let me select it in Time Machine, but when it went to run, it failed. I found a thread over here mentioning the removal of a few plist files, then it'd work, and sure enough I've got it backing up to a SMB mount :)

I'll have to do some more debugging to find out why rcp.lockd is not cooperating on FreeBSD 7.0. I've had a few people tell me they have little/no luck restarting nfsd and friends from the rc scripts and have to settle on a reboot. But the wife is in the midst of a huge upload of pictures/videos, so I'll have to wait a while for a reboot.
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»hillaryis404.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454899 Fri, 09 May 2008 01:14:00 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454773 nixen :
said by deblin See Profile :

said by nixen See Profile :

Ya'know, it always kinda chapped my hide that I had to go out and buy a USB drive for my MBP when I had a 2TB NAS sitting in my basement. Let me know how it works out.
Will do. I'm to the point where I've created the sparse file and it shows up in Time Machine, but when I select it, it drops me back to the TM prefs and it remains "off". Looks like rpc.lockd isn't working properly on the NFS server. Hopefully fixing that will make things work. More in a bit :)
Well, I actually have an Infrant ReadyNAS (Infrant was who NetGear bought). So, I know it's running all the requisite services. ;)
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said by nixen See Profile :

Ya'know, it always kinda chapped my hide that I had to go out and buy a USB drive for my MBP when I had a 2TB NAS sitting in my basement. Let me know how it works out.
Will do. I'm to the point where I've created the sparse file and it shows up in Time Machine, but when I select it, it drops me back to the TM prefs and it remains "off". Looks like rpc.lockd isn't working properly on the NFS server. Hopefully fixing that will make things work. More in a bit :)
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»hillaryis404.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454722 Fri, 09 May 2008 00:12:35 EDT Re: [Leo] Use Time Machine on an NFS mounted disk http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20454713 nixen :
said by deblin See Profile :

Let me preface this by saying I have not yet tried this. As soon as the wife is finished printing some photos for mother's day, I'm going to give it a shot, though.

Anyway, here are some instructions for setting Time Machine up to point to a Netgear ReadyNAS. From what I can tell, this should be extensible to any NFS server. I plan to try it out tonight, and will report back.
Ya'know, it always kinda chapped my hide that I had to go out and buy a USB drive for my MBP when I had a 2TB NAS sitting in my basement. Let me know how it works out.
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Anyway, here are some instructions for setting Time Machine up to point to a Netgear ReadyNAS. From what I can tell, this should be extensible to any NFS server. I plan to try it out tonight, and will report back.
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