teach
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Re: [OS X] anyone use migration assistant?
whew you two have lowered my stress level by 5, lol. thanks a ton. |
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Sebehk
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| said by teach  :whew you two have lowered my stress level by 5, lol. thanks a ton. I'm glad to be of help.
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teach
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| lol, well the best laid plans. A few things didn't transfer, iTunes(music), library from my home folder, keychain info, and my documents folder. the folders have a red mark next to them. any ideas?
thanks again and besides the little stress, this is a beauty!!!!!
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sfogliatelle
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perplexing folder icon |
said by teach :lol, well the best laid plans. A few things didn't transfer, iTunes(music), library from my home folder, keychain info, and my documents folder. the folders have a red mark next to them. any ideas? thanks again and besides the little stress, this is a beauty!!!!! After using Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer my stuff from an external disc I experienced something similar. The folders in question show a round icon with a red circle and white rectangle in it (see attached image), but with no file size or contents in them on attempting to open them.
Color me confused. |
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teach
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| yep, that's the cursed icon, lol. I think I'll just burn a disc or two and put them in that way. I was wondering if I can use the ipod to to transfer the music to the computer?
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tango_bob
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clubs: | reply to sfogliatelle
That icon states you don't have the correct permissions to view it's contents. |
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sfogliatelle
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| said by tango_bob :That icon states you don't have the correct permissions to view it's contents. Well, thanks for providing the reason for the mysterious, peculiar folder icon. It's much appreciated. After what I presumed was a successful process using Carbon Copy Cleaner, I'd like very much to fiddle with my files, but pretty please, if you would, enlighten me as to how to go about altering/changing its' (their) properties to allow access? |
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Toppil
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clubs: | I bought at Macbook Pro yesterday to replace my G5 Quad (amazing that it so out performs the behemoth). I used Migration Assistant and am having the same problem. Everything else seems to work just fine though. |
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Thinkdiff
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Bronx, NY | reply to sfogliatelle
First, what folder is that specific? There may be a good reason you can't access it.
If it's one of the folders in your old Users folder, does the user name on the new leopard install match the old username on the Carbon Copy cloned disk? |
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sfogliatelle
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said by Thinkdiff :First, what folder is that specific? There may be a good reason you can't access it. If it's one of the folders in your old Users folder, does the user name on the new leopard install match the old username on the Carbon Copy cloned disk? After having successfully used CCC as you'd mentioned, there was a ton of files and folders like that, Td.
Lemme re-phrase that: first, thanks ever so much for your help and assistance with my previous situation (the snafu with Migration Assistant) and in suggesting the app to me. It worked like a charm. While I didn't scrutinize every single file and folder immediately after (I was just so happy to see that the ones selected had made the move), it worked precisely how you said it would, crossed fingers notwithstanding.
Anyway, in answer to your question about user names, when challenged for one the system wouldn't let me to use the same as I had with the previous drive (see attached image here). Soon after was when the additional frustration began.
Once having moved to the new internal drive, on closer inspection, almost all the files featured the round red icon as described above.
By viewing the properties of the internal after the move I could tell that its' available space had diminished comparable to what was transferred. I was unable to expand the files which had that red, round icon but that was about it; I couldn't open or view their contents, due to not having the correct permissions.
With the exception of the previous User Applications folder, I've spent the better part of the morning opening every file and folder with that icon and changing the 'read-write' attributes. Oh yeah, I've also copied and pasted some of the missing ~Library/Application Support folders from the external drive to the internal. |
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Thinkdiff
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| By changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files, sure, but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup:
When you run Migration assistant after the initial setup, it creates a new user. You can't access those folders because you are not logged in as that user. go to the Apple Menu, then go to Log Out and re-login as the migrated user. All the old files and settings will be accessible just as they were before you switched OSes.
That's why I recommend running Migration assistant right at the setup assistant. It eliminates this "problem". |
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teach
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| I used migration assistant as soon as the screen appeared during set up. During the last few minutes, a window came up and said something like ...did not transfer and I would have to run it again and was asked to run it again. it finished and from there I had the same results as sfogllatelle with the same folders. maybe I should reinstall, try it again and see what didn't transfer. Or, do the above and only keep the user account that did transfer.
excuse my moment of stress relief, aaaiiieeeee, lol.
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Thinkdiff
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| What drive were you trying to migrate from? Or was it another mac?
Just because the folders aren't accessible by you doesn't mean it didn't work. You should have multiple user accounts on your computer. Try logging in another user to access the files. |
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said by Thinkdiff :By changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files, sure, but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup: When you run Migration assistant after the initial setup, it creates a new user. You can't access those folders because you are not logged in as that user. go to the Apple Menu, then go to Log Out and re-login as the migrated user. All the old files and settings will be accessible just as they were before you switched OSes. That's why I recommend running Migration assistant right at the setup assistant. It eliminates this "problem". I agree. When I installed Leo I used the Migration Assistant during setup connected to an external FW drive that had a cloned copy of my Tiger install. ( say that three times fast  ) It worked right the first time. I'm guessing its an "account thing" too. When Migration Assistant was finished it had re-created my Tiger account in Leo.
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teach
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| Thinkdiff and Badcat, thanks a ton for explaining. So migration adds transfered stuff as another user? I did see another me as a user and the files for the most part were there. I was under the impression that it would all be migrated into one user not two.
Badcat, do you still have two users or did you combine the files into one user? Just seems odd to have two me's, lol, but thinking about it as I type, it doesn't sound so bad.
Thanks guys for your help, you are better than Apple's help pages.
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Thinkdiff
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| Migration assistant works like this:
1. It searches your external disk/Mac for User folders, network settings, Applications, etc.
2. If it finds a User folder, it searches the current system for existing users. If an existing user matches the same name as the user on the external disk, it changes the name of the external user while it copies everything into your Mac (creating the new user in the process). This "new" user has completely different permissions from your current user, hence the read/write restrictions. This is the way UNIX/OS X is supposed to work. It sees you as two completely separate users, so you shouldn't be able to see each others files.
3. It repeats the process for each additional user on the external if there are any
The exception to this is when there are no users in the current system (at the first, initial bootup after doing a clean install of the OS). If there are no users to check against, it just automatically creates a new user using all the settings from the existing user on the external drive. That's why it's better to do Migration Assistant before you touch or set up anything else on the system.
If that's not possible, it's best to create a fake user during the initial OS X setup. Create a user with a name you'd never use. Then use Migration Assistant to bring in your real user name/folder. Login as the "new you", and delete the fake account. |
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teach
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Denver, CO | Thanks. I guess the new account might've happened when I migrated a second time. I think I will erase, reinstall and migrate again. |
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teach
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| well, I don't know that I did anything different but I used erase and install and migrated except this time it all worked!!! whew, thanks again all.
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said by teach
Badcat, do you still have two users or did you combine the files into one user? Just seems odd to have two me's, lol, but thinking about it as I type, it doesn't sound so bad.
Thanks guys for your help, you are better than Apple's help pages.
[/BQUOTE :I just ended up with the one account, which is what I was hoping for. I had used the Migration Assistant when I first bought my iMac and it worked fine then too. I should mention that I only have the one account. I don't have multiple users. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. --
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badcat
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said by Thinkdiff :The exception to this is when there are no users in the current system (at the first, initial bootup after doing a clean install of the OS). If there are no users to check against, it just automatically creates a new user using all the settings from the existing user on the external drive. That's why it's better to do Migration Assistant before you touch or set up anything else on the system. Bingo! That's probably why it worked so well for me in the past. I've always used it on either a brand machine or when I did a clean install of Leo on my iMac.
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