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donoreo
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North York, ON

Toronto not a must see: report

Yeah, no kidding. Toronto city councillors like to call Toronto a "world class city" but what do they base that on? The only thing many people know about is the CN Tower. A report confirms it: Toronto is not must be for tourists.

This does not surprise me. I live here, but do not like it. The "leaders", and I use that term loosely, of this city have been making poor decisions for decades. They have turned the city from one with potential to a not even in the running one.

»www.citynews.ca/news/news_22551.aspx

The actual report: »www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2008···2816.pdf
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Snickerdo
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St Catharines, ON
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I dunno, I love Toronto, but probably because I come from this side of the lake and don't see it all too often.

I wouldn't bitch about the lack of tourists. We have more of them here than anywhere else in this country, and they are a living hell to deal with. Navigating Niagara Falls in the summer is extremely difficult, because you never know if someone in a rental car or a moron with US plates is going to slam on the breaks and pull a U-turn on a major road. Don't even get me started on them stopping on the QEW and BACKING UP because they missed their exit. I have seen that happen more times than I should have had to see in my entire life.
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Exit
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join:2001-04-10
Canada
reply to donoreo
Toronto has nothing to draw in tourists. I lived in Europe for over 4 years and comparing any large city in the EU to Toronto is like night and day. Toronto has no culture, no sites to see and a crappy vibe in general.


Wolfie00
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said by Exit See Profile :

Toronto has nothing to draw in tourists. I lived in Europe for over 4 years and comparing any large city in the EU to Toronto is like night and day. Toronto has no culture, no sites to see and a crappy vibe in general.
Well I know that many would disagree with that, but I'll say this much: when it comes to culture, architecture, atmosphere, and great food, Montreal has it all over Toronto, despite Montreal having been economically disadvantaged for so long. If Montreal was on a level playing field with Toronto, wow, what a city that would be!! For instance, where in Toronto can you find something like Old Montreal, with gaslit cobblestone streets and quaint French restaurants with the best food in North America? Toronto is all about "biggest, tallest, richest" but somewhere along the line, "interesting", "attractive", and "entertaining" got all forgotten about. Still, as I've said before, it can be a wonderful city to live in, in many ways, and has some of the most unique neighbourhoods of any major city in the nation. I won't be sticking my microphone out the window for any more bird recordings like I did before, but later on I will be strolling out to the park across the street with my dog, a cigar, and a glass of wine.
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SK
The member formerly known as Cow
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May 9th, @08:18PM

reply to donoreo
I love Toronto - I think it's a great city to live in, but I don't see it as a tourist attraction. However, people from elsewhere that I come across (read German exchange students, you won't believe how many there are at any given point in time) can't stop raving about it. Confuddled, I always ask them what they like about it, they list a couple of things that make me go "oh yeah," but then I forget. My conclusion is that the city doesn't have any big-name tourist attractions, but it has a large number of small ones, and that gestalt () is what people like.


happylurk

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reply to donoreo
I've lived 40 years in Montreal and 12 years now in Mississauga.

I totally agree that Toronto has almost nothing to offer to attract tourists.

Montreal over the years has offered the World's Fair, the Olympics, countless internationally recognized festivals such as Jazz and Comedy and a clean, safe and modern subway system that will take you virtually anywhere a tourist would like to see.

Compare that to Toronto with it's 60 year old subway, CNE farm show, Casa Loma and Carribana and Gay pride Parade and Toronto comes across second rate in effort and execution every time.

The CN Tower was Toronto's single claim to fame for 40 years and now even that distinction has been lost to Dubai.

Face it folks. While at least it's a lot easier to earn a living in the big smoke, culturally it has about as much excitement to offer as Cleveland on a Sunday night...

And the only real reason Montreal is economically disadvantaged is because of the reality of political will in Quebec and their insane hatred of English Culture in all it's forms...

Warez_Zealot
Mr. Misanthrope

join:2006-04-19
St Catharines, ON
reply to donoreo
Vancouver and Montreal are the only 2 cities I would go and see as a tourist if I was going to visit Canada. Toronto is cool, but nothing really mind blowing. Unless you want to go to the AGO, ROM, CN Tower or a sporting event.


vue666

join:2007-12-07
How does Toronto compare to other major cities in North America.... Montreal, Vancouver, LA, NYC, Chicago, Miami?

How does TO compare to cities in Europe... London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Venice?

decx
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Vancouver, BC
I found the part about how other Canadians not finding Toronto to be hospitable while everywhere in the world found the opposite particularly amusing...


alg
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reply to donoreo
As a potential tourist I've never really considered visiting Toronto. Any future trips to Canada would likely be to Montreal.
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Snickerdo
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reply to vue666
said by vue666 See Profile :

How does Toronto compare to other major cities in North America.... Montreal, Vancouver, LA, NYC, Chicago, Miami?
How does TO compare to cities in Europe... London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Venice?
Toronto is pretty much a clone of Chicago. I don't think you can find two metropolitan areas in North America that are more alike.
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Mashiki
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Woodstock, ON
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Bad highway system, easy to get lost, crowded downtown core with excessive lights. Hard to find attractions? Yep. I'd agree. *cough* I'm not a fan of Chicago or driving through it, I used to hate driving in Toronto but after doing it for nearly a year you get used to it.

decx
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May 10th, @12:59AM

Yes, Toronto's highway system leaves something to be desired (the Spadina Expressway would've helped spread traffic off of the DVP). But it certainly beats some other cities with a non-existent highway system which includes one of Canada's apparently popular tourist city.


Griz_
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May 10th, @01:11AM

reply to donoreo
I live 100 miles from Toronto and the only time I've been near it in the past 30 years is between 2 and 4 AM on my to somewhere else, or (during the day) to get to Pearson which is always a horrible experience.

Even "back in the day" when I traveled there a couple times a year, I really didn't care for the place.

WNGFAN 1

join:2003-11-02
Leamington, ON
reply to donoreo
We visit "The Big Smoke" three times a year for 3-4 days at a time. By then were ready to come home though to a slower pace of life.

horsemouth
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canada
reply to donoreo
Myself I love to visit TO But never want to live in it.


DKS
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to donoreo
OK, so Toronto beats up on itself again.


Wolfie00
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said by DKS See Profile :

OK, so Toronto beats up on itself again.
...and we haven't even started discussing Toronto's magnificent home-town hockey team yet!


SK
The member formerly known as Cow
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reply to WNGFAN 1
said by WNGFAN 1 See Profile :

We visit "The Big Smoke" three times a year for 3-4 days at a time. By then were ready to come home though to a slower pace of life.
What do you do here?

WNGFAN 1

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May 10th, @04:12PM

said by SK See Profile :

said by WNGFAN 1 See Profile :

We visit "The Big Smoke" three times a year for 3-4 days at a time. By then were ready to come home though to a slower pace of life.
What do you do here?
I hit ballgames and the Wife shops and sometimes takes in a theatre production.
P.S. and We eat wa too much(lol)
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